Greek Special Forces Take to the Streets

I think you'll find that they don't have much time for Germany because your beloved Nazis invaded and occupied their country. I'd say quite a few know what the source of their problem is, but while a German (whom they don't like) is acting as emissary for the bankers, then this is the reception they'll receive. 

Sullivan, I'm aware that the Germans came in. I think it was after the Italians made a mess of things. It's too bad that the Dictatorship of the Proletariat was unable to restore democracy in Greece the way they were permitted to in Poland, Hungary, Czecho, East Germany, etc.

I'm not sure of the specifics. My impression that most Italian colonial efforts were concentrated to the south, i.e. in Africa. As for the dictatorship of the proletariat, what transpired was dictatorship over the proletariat and that was the case moreso in Soviet satellites than it was in Russia. 

Even Mikey Rivero admitted last week that Hitler was fighting the same international bankers raping the planet today. He natrually didn't state the truth that they have always been Jews. And he's back bashing "fascism" and "Nazis" of every stripe once again. Anyhow, naivete of anyone calling a tool of the international Jewish banks a "Nazi" is charming.

I acknowledge the good things that Hitler did. I don't buy the whole big government thing though, and I'm loathe to equate fascism with any form of socialism, because the two couldn't be more distant from each other.

Fascism appears to be the only system that has produced a serious challenge to the Synagoge of Satan in the modern era. Hence, my "belove" for Hitler etc. Or do you have some example(s) I've overlooked?

National Socialism may have been a challenge. I don't know whether Fascism was any sort of a challenge. Fascism is not government by the people for the people. On the contrary, it writes the people out of the picture completely. Fascism is government for special interests by special interests. I'd rather not swap one form of plutocratic system for another.

Maybe the "anti-Nazi" bunting and flag-burning is merely a desperate propaganda effort.

What better way of irking Germans than reminding them of their past? If the Germans insist on being the bully-boys of Europe, then they deserve the kicking they get. By the way, I mean the German government, which doesn't have the support of every German, and by the looks of things, it has less support from the German populace each passing day.

Sullivan, Irving has Italy invading Greece and the Germans having to deal with the shambles.

Nobody forced Germany to clean up Italy's mess. The fact is, they were occupying a foreign country. They weren't wanted there. The same would have applied to Italy if the truth was known.

This quote on Mussolini highlights the situation in Italy prior to fascism.

"If I had been an Italian I would have been on Mussoliniís side fifteen years ago when he rescued his country from the horrible fate of sinking into violent communism,í or from incipient anarchy into a position of dignity and order,i as he put it even in 1939." (Churchill's War vol. 1, p. 486)

So someone thought that the situation in Italy wasn't to their liking before Mussolini took over?  Am I supposed to take this as some sort of fact? 

I think you'll find that they don't have much time for Germany because your beloved Nazis invaded and occupied their country.

Oh come on, Tom. There was belligerence on all sides during the war, and the Greeks were as aggressive as anyone else – yet today they posture as innocent "victims" of the Nazis, as does everyone else.

Greece had long been a British ally, but during the 1930s, Greece economically cooperated with Germany for its own benefit. (Greece sent raw materials to Germany, and Germany sent finished goods back to Greece.) When war broke out, Greece declared neutrality, but the Italian invasion of October 1940 changed that. (Mussolini did this on his own, and it angered Hitler.) Greece became allied with Churchill, who sought to create a “Balkan Front” consisting of Yugoslavia, Greece and Turkey.

Back on 27 March 1940 there had been a sudden coup d'état against the Yugoslav government (probably arranged by Churchill.)  On 1 Nov 1940 the British invaded and occupied Crete and Lemnos (with the consent of the Greek government) and prepared to invade Greece proper. British aircraft filled the Greek skies. On 11–12 Nov 1940 the British sank most of the Italian fleet at Taranto. On 17 Nov 1940, Greek Prime Minister Ioannis Metaxas proposed to the British government a Greek-British offensive to invade and occupy several Balkan countries. On 27 Nov 1940 the British attacked Italy again (Battle of Cape Spartivento). On 13 Jan 1941, General Alexandros Papagos—Commander-in-Chief of the Greek Army—asked Britain for nine fully equipped divisions and corresponding air support. However England was still too busy in North Africa.

None of this Greek-British aggression was acceptable to Germany, which was at war. Hence the Germans invaded to secure Greece and the Balkans. Hitler did not want to invade. He was worried about the imminent Soviet invasion of all Europe, but he had to delay everything in order to keep the British from advancing further. He knew that this delay could cause the Germans to become bogged down by the Russian winter, but he was forced to strike before Stalin could. Likewise the British invasions of France and Norway forced Hitler to counter-invade.

So there was belligerence on all sides. That said, I do agree with the Greek anger at Germany regarding austerity.

Fester writes:

My attempts to inform the general public have convinced me that the majority need to be led.  "Democracy" is a sham and was feared by the American founding fathers for good reason.  The public voted for Wilson in 1916 because "he kept them out of war."  Bush II lost two elections and served 8 years.  Voting is clearly window dressing and a sop to the emotions of the general public as long as Jewry controls the money and the media.

I think the problem would remain, with or without Jews. In order to have “society,” there must be organization, which inevitably leads (in all nations) to strata, hierarchies, food chains, and pecking orders. The only difference between societies is what kind of people are their leaders. Are they selfish and depraved? Or do they sincerely care about the welfare of the citizenry?

Sullivan writes,

“I'm loathe to equate fascism with any form of socialism, because the two couldn't be more distant from each other.”

I disagree. Fascism simply means that everything in society is geared to serve a common end. Every country in history has been more or less fascist, in that the banks, media, political structures, and even the culture serve the top dawgs. Venezuela is less fascist than the USA, but it too has political structures. Europe and North America are ultra-fascist, since everything and everyone exists to serve Jews, bankers, and speculators.

Fascism is not government by the people for the people. On the contrary, it writes the people out of the picture completely. Fascism is government for special interests by special interests. I'd rather not swap one form of plutocratic system for another.

Not necessarily, but I will not go into detail unless Sullivan challenges me to.

 If the Germans insist on being the bully-boys of Europe, then they deserve the kicking they get. By the way, I mean the German government, which doesn't have the support of every German, and by the looks of things, it has less support from the German populace each passing day.

Here I agree.

Nobody forced Germany to clean up Italy's mess. The fact is, they were occupying a foreign country. They weren't wanted there. The same would have applied to Italy if the truth was known.

Greece wanted to invade and occupy too, as I noted above. This was a world war. But since Germany lost, Germany was the "villain," with the holo-hoax etc. Again, however, I do not excuse Germany's current behavior.