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Denis Halliday: Another anti-war activist who upholds official 9/11 story
In an interview given to Arab Voices, a Pacifica radio program out of Houston, TX, Denis Halliday was on to discuss President Obama's announcement on the U.S. withdrawal of some of its troops from occupied Iraq. The entire interview is well worth listening to and many topics were addressed, including military contractors operating outside of the law, Iraqi sovereignty, and the real reasons for invading Iraq: OIL (oil, Israel, logistics) and the possibility of a Iranian nuclear holocaust.
Halliday is a former UN Assistant Secretary General, and former UN Humanitarian Coordinator in Iraq (1997-1998). He resigned after a 34 year career with the UN to free himself of the constraints imposed on him and thereby speak out publicly on the terrible impact of UN economic sanctions on the people of Iraq.
At 49m55s into the interview, Halliday was posed with a question on whether America, given it's current Anti-Muslim hysteria and climate of fear, coupled with the desire to invade Iran, should be concerned about the possibility of a false flag terror attack as a pretext to start the war.
Halliday anknowledged that Pearl Harbor was invented as a pretext to get the US into World War 2, yet admitted that he was not so sure he believed that 9/11 was the same type of event. He admitted that he was well aware that people doubted the official story of 9/11, yet he could not wrap his mind around the concept that it could be anything besides Muslim retaliation against US military aggression.
Surprisingly, he seemed to blame 9/11 on the anti-American sentiment over the military bases that have been built in Saudi Arabia. The host of Arab Voices, Said, countered that US foreign policy in the Middle East could not have been a justification for the 9/11 attacks as an act made in the name of Islam, since the killing of a human is forbidden according to the Quran.
It is almost unimaginable that someone with the breadth of knowledge of history and current events that Mr. Halliday holds, who has even appeared on popular alternative radio shows like Daryl Bradford Smith's I Am The Witness, could still be laboring under the delusion of 19 Muslim hijackers with the intent of committing Jihad as being the real culprits of the 9/11 staged media terror event. One must wonder if Mr. Halliday simply hasn't bothered to review the extensive and exaustive 9/11 research that is easily available, or if he is aware of it, but is simply worried about being labeled a "conspiracy theorist."
Halliday's statements recall David Ray Griffin's recent article on the phenomenon of left-leaning anti-war activists such as Mr. Halliday opposing the war, yet neglecting the very obvious reasons and machinations that got the US into these Middle East quagmires:
The Fear of Being Discredited
You are certainly right to fear that the left would be discredited by being aligned with a conspiracy theory that is scientifically unsupportable and even absurd. It is hard to imagine, however, what could discredit the left more than having many of its recognized leaders endorsing the Bush-Cheney administration’s 9/11 conspiracy theory, especially at a time when more and more scientists and people in relevant professions are pointing out its absurdities.
The Fear of Being Distracted
The second fear – that the focus on a false conspiracy theory has been distracting many people from more important matters – is equally valid. But this fear has been directed toward the wrong conspiracy theory. Nothing has distracted the United States and its allies from issues such as global apartheid, the ecological crisis, nuclear proliferation, and corporate power more than the “war on terror” - with its huge operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, its incessant terror alerts and stories of attacks prevented, and its depletion of our national treasuries. Lying at the root of this so-called war on terror, both historically and as present justification, is the official account of 9/11. So it is, as I wrote in response to Cockburn in Le Monde Diplomatique three years go, “The Truly Distracting 9/11 Conspiracy Theory.”
I recently completed a 15-city tour, presenting a lecture entitled “Is the War in Afghanistan Justified by 9/11?” My hope was that, by providing clear evidence that it is not – because the official account of 9/11 is false from beginning to end – “the 9/11 Truth Movement and more traditional Peace and Anti-War groups [would] be able to combine forces to oppose this illegal and immoral war.” I have written the present essay with the same hope.
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Re: Denis Halliday: Another anti-war activist who upholds ...
It wasn't his mind he couldn't wrap around the 9/11 facts. It was his testicles. I was relistening to a TFC interview he did and he comes across as committed, knowledgeable, and very decent. However 9/11 is a LITMUS test and he's had 9 years to catch up with the class. He ain't that slow. The other litmus test, according to Mr. Visible, is the Holocaust and I couldn't agree more. We should see increasing numbers of sheeple realizing who the lying parasites are.
I'm not even sure what to believe about the holocaust any more
because on one side you have the Zionists who push the 6 million version, but on the other you have Neo-Nazis who claim that the whole thing was made up. I've seen the movies arguing it was a hoax and believed them for a while but I've seen some compelling rebuttals as well that have pointed out some things that have been misrepresented by the revisionists. Who really cares anyway about the Holocaust, it happened 60 years ago unlike 9/11 which was less than a decade ago and which the whole war on terrorism is justified with. The Holocaust might serve as an ideological excuse for Zionism but no one but Jewish people really pays attention to that. If they saw the reality of Israel killing people like animals and not only that but killing Americans they would not say oh that's alright because the Nazis killed them 60 years ago
I don't bother with it
I let them have their Holocaust (case in point) because I can't be fucked getting mired down in accusations of "anti-Semitism". There's plenty of other less opaque issues to focus on, unassailable truths that transcend debate. (For people willing to know, anyway - not the 'True Believers' as Jeff Gates calls them.)
The problem is getting people interested in the truth, which seems impossible in the face of the unstoppable force of Entertainment Tonight and the mundane 9-5 lifestyles imposed on people by modern society (thank the monetary system for that one).
Questioning the Holler
Asking questions about the Holler is critical because it definitively shows which group has the ability to propagandize the planet without opposition which is what we see in the 9/11 hoax. Now it's the Arabs trying to take over the world; before it was Hitler.
Don't get me wrong
I agree with you, but I've been frequenting the more mainstream academic foreign policy blogs of late (LobeLog, Steve Walt et al) and hitting the commentators there with "Holocaust denial" isn't worth the hassle.
Infinite, check this and this. That should clear up some of your (quite understandable) confusion.
Toppling the Holocaust Lie
COZ, once they face up to the mountain of 9/11 evidence, people should be ready for more questions.
JFK murder is a LIE
Pearl Harbor is a LIE
9/11 is a LIE
Entry into Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, WII, WWI and others LIES
Federal Reserve system a LIE
HOW CAN THE HOLOCAUST BE TRUE if everything other major story is bullshit. Are there not strong Jewish connections to all of the above? Smedley Butler figured it out and fingered the bankers.
The Holocaust is so full of holes that a 15 minute investigation will stun people who are prepared. Not sure how receptive the people at the sites you're visiting are. I have no time for experts and our intelligensia who can't fathom the possiblity that 9/11 suited Israeli purposes rather than Muslim.
Re: Denis Halliday: Another anti-war activist who upholds ...
I like Halliday guy, but I was quite taken a back when he said that he doubted that 9/11 was a staged event. I was completely gobsmacked when he went on to quote Osama bin Laden and it was only when he expounded on the Muslim bs excuse for 9/11 that I decided to write this post.
I wish DBS would invite him on to go over some particulars, and we should all make sure that we get this radio host the information he needs to set his listenership straight. He's got the correct story for the most part.
www.undertheradarmedia.blogspot.com
Re: Denis Halliday: Another anti-war activist who upholds ...
The current state of affairs is proof enough of the harm that these blood libel myths can bring. All of them are worth countering, perhaps one at a time is more effective though.
Another pro-war meme appears to be supported by Halliday and Pacifica. The baseless "war for oil" mantra.
In the final analysis, most people simply prefer to rely on faith based opinion and choose which ones to have based on general associations.
That's why it's so critical to have authoritative voices questioning the myths. And even celebrities.
That also explains why the Sayanim such as Chomsky and Zinn attacked 9/11 doubts so vehemently.
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Questions @ "authoritative voices"
Altheo, not sure I follow.
1) "Blood libel" of the Muslims using the 9/11 Big Lie?
2) I'm with you on the "war for oil" nonsense.
3) I agree people take a "faith based" approach if you mean they have place faith in "experts" like Chomsky, Zinn, Goodman, Olbermann, NPR, etc.
4) not sure what you mean about the need for authoritative voices. Who the fuck has stood up? O'Keefe but he's hardly an authority. Vidal somewhat but he's always on guard against "antii-Semitism" as his partner was ostracized by WASP ad agencies for being a Jew (so the story goes). We got NO authoritative voices. Galloway is AWOL. Ron Paul AWOL? Nader running scared. We got Charley Sheen and fuck all else as far as I can see. Sabrosky...I overlooked. Explain your thinking on this one, please.
5) 100% agreement on the lying shitbags Chomsky and Zinn. Don't know about "one at a time" though. It's war and we got nothing but rocks.
Shilling for the truth
You're absolutely right that an hour-long look at some good Holocaust revisionism is enough to totally reorder a person's belief system.
Jacque Fresco would say that people will always be receptive if you create the necessary conditions for receipt. When he was a young teenager he cured his mother of a bad case of racism by coming home soaking wet one night and telling her that he'd nearly drowned. He told her that if it wasn't for his best friend, a little immigrant kid (I think he was Indian or Pakistani), he'd surely be dead. She was mortified that she'd nearly lost her little boy, and told him to invite the kid around for dinner so that she could thank him for saving her son's life. He feigned reluctance but his mother insisted, so after little Fresco had filled his friend in and told him to play along, they had dinner together and the two got along famously. He became a regular visitor to their home and the mother learned all sorts of stuff about this kid's religion and culture, and found it quite fascinating. A year or two later, Fresco told his mum that the whole story was bullshit, but by then it was too late.
Later in the 60s he joined a small chapter of the KKK and became intimately involved with its leadership, and within a matter of weeks he'd totally dissolved it. After that he took on a bigger project, a 100+ member branch of the White Citizen's Council (now the Council of Conservative Citizens), which took considerably longer. But after about 18 months, it no longer existed.
He could be full of shit, but that's what he told me. According to him, he ingratiated himself with the nigger-haters by explaining that he thought their ideas were great but that they didn't go far enough. He had a better idea, and through some weird convoluted process he eventually turned their worldviews upside down and inside out. Ideological alchemy.
Anyway I don't fully grasp it -- I'll email him or Roxanne and ask about it, but a simple example would be something like this. Establish yourself as a benign, neutral commentator at a mainstream foreign policy forum (or even a Zionist one) and then post something like
So you're asking for evidence that doesn't exist after showing a whole shitload of people a video about the fact that no such evidence exists. No "Holocaust denial", no resistance, just the dissemination of truth.
Check out the way Jeff Gates responds to his detractors. He never loses his cool, even when they insult the fuck out of him, and it's totally disarming.
Fester, I read those forums and the comments because I find that I learn much more that way. Those academic foreign policy blogs attract the most skilled Megaphone Zionist hasbara agents, and also the most intelligent anti-Zionists. Some of the debates are fucking riveting. I was going to link you to a massive comment thread on Steve Walt's blog in which a former IAEA official repeatedly obliviates the very convincing disinfo of professional shills for Israel, but his comments have been removed.