PlanetQuo and Fugazi discuss their next move
You never know now...PQ and Fugazi, with their video of little substance, may just be fishing for information on those who slap DBS & Co around. They may actually still be DBS loyal subjects. It is strange to take so little substance and make such a loud noise about it. Very weird.
All Howlers And No Play Makes Jim A Dull Boy
Absurd Theories and Amusing Quotes From the Webmaster of PlanetQuo.Com
TEN HOWLERS
PlanetQuo:
"Yes, strange indeed…but then again not. They do not attack you because you do not attack them! Linton is no neutral observer, his job is to protect Nina, who, evidently, is Smith’s controller and handler."
Other photos of Gina make it even clearer that it's not the case.
"I believe more than ever that the agent who operates the Fester handle is the same agent who is operating the Crimes of Zion handle."
"Smith in turn decrees Crimes of Zion to be a member of the Zionist network, and states that Poseidon is crypto-Zionist Scott Makufka."
(Having said that, I'm sure Smith would be quite happy to put me in that category, and being that I've dared to ask questions, it follows that I am a 'Zionist agent').
"I am delighted to see that she denies being Eireann Princess, and now that she had made a public denial, she is trapped in a lie. When my team decide to release the evidence, she is finished, and COZ with her. Hopefully, Smith too. Indeed, It is a question of when they fall rather than if. Nina’s time is almost up – Smith’s too. Good riddance to the pair of them."
I'll save the uncontrollable laughter for later, but that was June 10, and still no "evidence".
"Debus IS Poseidon. I would stake my credibility on this, if called."
Later, he told Poseidon
"I am now satisfied that you are not Debus and wish to apologise for mistakenly saying that you were, and for any embarrassment caused, although it is I who has the red face lol. I now stand corrected and retract my remarks.
If you have no objections, I would be happy to host some of your work on PlanetQuo."
"Tonethon is one of New Math's aliases.....Geeez is the other."
In reality, they are three separate individuals.
"Germar Rudolf is just another of the multitude of 'coincidences' that connect Peter Sault with Poseidon. There are more - a lot more. In fact there are too many 'coincidences' for Poseidon not to be Peter Sault."
"I know you are Peter Sault, and so do about fifty other people."
In reality, Poseidon is not Peter Wakefield Sault.
Dipshit
Me:
I have a fair bit of information from Nina that I'll pass on to you if you can assure me that it will be used for your interest only. No publishing on your site, no sharing with Hufschmid, no fucking around. I don't want her to be seen to be weighing in on it, especially via me.
Kerr:
I gave you my word that I would not reveal details of the information on Nina that you supplied me with.
Nina's email was fowarded to Suzette by Kerr and posted on the NOLAJBS forum on May 5.
Hi Jamie,
I give you my word that any information that you give me regarding Nina aka 'A Possum Princess' will not be published on any of my websites or shared with Eric Hufschmid.
Nina's Email on Kerr's Website.
The 'evidence' which proves "conclusively" that I am a liar. So what? I made you a promise that I never had any intention of keeping. Big deal. Oh dear, I've lost your 'trust' and forfeited your 'friendship'.
I offered you nothing but a promise that I had absolutely no intention whatsoever of keeping. You strung me along, I played along. You and Nina set a trap, I pretended that I was unaware that I was being set-up. 'Keep your friends close but your enemies closer still'
I did not agree to your request hence there was no agreement made that could be broken dipshit.
No promise was broken dipshit. When will you get that fact into your meths-rotted brain dipshit?
I made you a promise that I never had any intention of keeping.
Dipshit.
Going to continue to run at the mouth He is going to have to get used to the Normal Wind of public life regardless if he likes it or not. The Duped IATW audience is not going to be quiet and feel like they are to blame. There all starting to become just a little angered at the BS Mr smith and his pod cast from hell.
Good luck Daryl.
Your going to need all the help you can get i think.
And keep sending those post march 06' Mp3 of his show so Masher1 can catch up on all this crap i have missed over this year. If i have to i can be a real pain Mr smith.
Let's just say that Times up For the effectiveness of the Daryl and Eric podcast now that more than just Me is calling this persona out.
Spook want to play LETS play! You cannot frighten everyone off from reacting to the brain washing baloney going on at the smith site.
First you take D.C. Then you take New York.
Masher, you don't actually think I'm DBS or a TFC representative, do you? Because that's fucking ridiculous. I've been a TFC skeptic from day one. I mean who are you talking to? You always seem to address Daryl in your posts, and not the people that're actually posting.
http://crimesofzion.blogspot.com/
As most know Daryl's bot picks through everything looking for trouble. I always talk directly to DBS or Fester for a very good reason they refuse to respond to anything. And no i have a very good bead on who is a piece of crap and those who can and do helpful things and deeds. Fear not. But kinks and twists are there game wherever they are lurking.
I am just sorry to have to air this DBS crap out here. I and others have had enough of this garbage flowing forth from Eric's servers.
Sorry if i caused any confusion. But the DBS faction is just getting too out of hand. Times are now such that repair starts at the trouble makers like DBS Et Al.
I detest the need to respond like this but the need for a place with a good amount of ammo for the DBS skeptics is long over due.
P.S. i never bought any of Daryl and Eric's claims of numbers to there site. Down loads and such. There are far more than they admit coming into those servers FAR more.
This 9/11 truth movement is being contained by some slippery persona. My concern is for those numbers alone. My heart felt thanks for trying to understand my problems in responding to the DBS promoters.
First you take D.C. Then you take New York.
DBS was one of the first sources I saw on the Internet back when I first learned about zionist evil.
Even then, I had trouble taking him seriously. He seemed to regard everyone as a zionist plant. Moreover his reasoning was unintelligible.
He does not interest me in the least, and I never listen to what he says. I regard his opinion as self-serving, and therefore irrelevant.
You wrote, “I've taken the stance of trusting no one regardless of what they say or do.”
I see no need for that. That’s buying into DBS’s illness.
If a comment benefits israel, or the rich, or the warmongers, or tyrannical corporations, it is a lie.
If a comment strictly benefits the person who makes it -- as occurs when DBS blasts everyone, including you and me – it is also a lie.
"If and when the Quo/Fugazi TFC smear operation succeeds, as a unit they'll be conveniently positioned to be it's natural replacement, via the PlanetQueer website, and by virtue of their keen eye for deception and ostensible dedication to the integrity of the anti-Zionist movement."
Yeah, all these fights seem manufactured to further divide any kind of unity. Why couldn't Zio deniers and Zio accepters work together for simple ideas like freedom and liberty? Does it really matter what we call the oppressors? Are we so dumb that a few bad apples shut us down?
Also, would DBS really write those stupid emails knowing they are a written record? A moment of weakness or planned combustion?
"It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. If the Smith operation does in fact "implode" as Fugazi alleges is the plan, the prescience of the Quo/Fagarsie team will be highly suspect. But of course, we'll all be expected to believe that it was due to their valiant efforts at "exposing" TFC, rather than that they were actually involved in a deliberate transfer of power/allegiance/credibility, planned by the Zionist criminal network who set up the TFC disinfo operation in the first place."
Don't count on it. I don't think that's the point of all this. It's more like jilted love. Everyone's dirty in this mess. And not everyone can do broadcasting. But even if it's the next level of disinfo, hopefully the info will be better and the people nicer. Besides, we should just stick to local stuff that we can accomplish hands on.
"Alternatively, if the Quo/Fagazi team-up really is a legitimate splinter group of mindless Smithsonians that has belatedly woken up from it's TFC slumber, as it were, and the Smith operation survives (and I think it will, albeit having suffered a minor blow), the anti-Smith operatives behind all this will have lost some credibility themselves. Their only option will be to continue their campaign of gathering and publicising "evidence" that supports their assertions, casting evermore doubt on the motives and credibility of Smith and Hufschmid."
Not really. Just because they survive doesn't mean anything. Alex Jones is still around and he was exposed a long time ago. TFC had their moment in the sun, but their influence will wane. The disinfo will have to become more sophisticated and that's a good thing.
I think this will help people realize that they have to start doing things on their own, in their own locality, using their own brain and stop listening to voices in the dark. Do we really need anymore information?
How many bad weather stories do we really need anyway? More? I don't think so. We all nered to work the FIX to hell with this bad weather crap.
First you take D.C. Then you take New York.
I think TFC's aim was to carry on as long as possible, building up a cult following whose receipt of information was at least in part controlled by the Zionists. The last thing they want is everyone diverging and carrying out research on their own initiative:
"The second secret requisite for the success of our government is comprised in the following: To multiply to such an extent national failings, habits, passions, conditions of civil life, that it will be impossible for anyone to know where he is in the resulting chaos, so that the people in consequence will fail to understand one another. This measure will also serve us in another way, namely, to sow discord in all parties, to dislocate all collective forces which are still unwilling to submit to us, and to discourage any kind of personal initiative which might in any degree hinder our affair. There is nothing more dangerous than personal initiative; if it has genius behind it, such initiative can do more than can be done by millions of people among whom we have sown discord. We must so direct the education of the goyim communities that whenever they come upon a matter requiring initiative they may drop their hands in despairing impotence."
From Protocol no 5.
But even the "sophisticated" disinfo agents have a limited shelf life. Once Smith, Hufschmid and Bollyn became damaged goods, they would go into the self-destruct mode. It would probably involve Eric posting an article claiming that Daryl and Christopher are "Zionist agents" (true, in fact). After the inevitable arguments, they would split up and not be heard of again. The aim would be to discredit all their previous work, so anyone pointing to Israeli involvement, or thermate used to demolish the WTC, would be dismissed as a "Bollyn" or a "Hufschmid" lunatic.
I don't know where PlanetQuo's true allegiances lie, so we shall have to find out in the weeks ahead.
Personal intiative and unity would destroy these people's plans.
We all need to grow up, get along and stop following the people drunk on their own ego.
Yes - although watching TFC's con game become more and more visible is fun.. (especially if it pisses you off that they tricked you too)...
Mr Paul does need our attention and active participation
possum is right about that
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The thing about DBS is to look at what he is doing at the particular time he is doing it - that is when you can see that he really helps zio-interests.
He bashes Irving just when holocaust denial jailings are causing a backlash.
He tells people to forget opposing the war in Iraq (war for zion) becuase it distracts from opposing zionism.
He bashes Paul when Paul comes out the gate and he is the closest thing to anti-zio there is.
The list is long and Ive forgotten a lot of it.. but the point is, TFC seems to be a sortof 'zone defense'.. they float around.. they deflate potentional trouble spots like 'holocaust denier jailings' and people gaining following.. and move on to the next one - theirs is a war of attrition.
Theyre like handymen.. troubleshooters, snipers.
they are one group out of many.. i think they are the group assigned to christian patriots with a clue - i think they were supposed to split christian patriuots by going antichristian.. but never got there - we started deflating them too fast First.
I do believe they actively work for the enemy. I think they are paid to do it too.
they just act too much like 'an operation' to me.. and theres 5 or more individuals working it too. Judicial-inc is theirs and the Skunk is one of the individuals on the TFC team..
thats my theory based on watching those shits for a few months.
MASHER, I posted the indictment because I noticed your keen interest in attacking Daryl. You were so passionate that I felt sure you had something worthwhile to present. I was a bit naive.
Here you say, "I always talk directly to DBS or Fester for a very good reason they refuse to respond to anything." Not very accurate as I tried for a couple of weeks before I realized that innuendo and chum were you only game vs. Smith (still truly curious about the dampers, but you need a couple of coins to buy your way in).
It took a week or two for you to go beyond your high school confidential "Oh, he's a BOLD LIAR, but you'll all just have to find out for yourselves" ruse.
You and Ol Po love to go off on irrelevant tangents based on obvious mischaracterizations of what's on the record. There a loads of examples over at the Chum Trail if anyone here is truly interested.
A brief example or two: if I use the common phrase "pet project," that's clear proof that I'm DBS. If I get exasperated and curse, that's additional proof that I'm DBS. You two then have at least a week's worth of material to chum the indictment with. Fact.
If this debate was public, you'd be laughed out of the building, but on the net you can spin away as if you're making sense all the while getting further and further from the original intent which was to SEE THE EVIDENCE AGAINST SMITH which you claim to ALREADY POSSESS. Fact.
I'm open to admitting mistakes as I did when someone pointed me to the Mullins interveiw with Piper. What Mullins' appearance with Piper DOES NOT do is to prove Smith a mind control expert. Fact.
You have insisted that it's clear Smith put words in Mullins' mouth but again if you presented that to a public audience you be laughed off stage. Fact.
Mullins has no credibility and I thank whoever it was who pointed me to that fact. Fact.
Piper, if he continues to use Mullins, also has no credibility. Smith would look better if he gave an explanation about the Mullins thing, but the onus is on those who still handle Mullins. I know you're bright enough to realize that all by yourself. Fact.
And so you hang out here and carry on about how you deal with evidence and facts, but you never have regarding the indictment. Given the ample amount of time, it's obvious that you can't.
5 threads is unnecessary; let's keep it to one or two. I propose 1154 (DBS Indicted) and/or 1685 (DBS Guilty).
UAZ, I concur wholeheartedly. Seems like a closed circle over here and very chummy. My old friend Suzette, is posting the same piece in multiple locations. I've offered what I thought was a fair question, but so far silence.
I hope the anti-Smith gang hasn't decided to become an exclusive self-congratulatory society as the absence of substantive evidence is loud and clear.
Let's hope the spirit of cooperation still reigns.
"Notwithstanding the rampant narcissism and blatant self-servitude, TFC hasn't been compromised in the sense PlanetQuo claims it has. Quo's entire investigation is based on a single premise.. that the owner of certain other forum is a Christian Zionist. This rumor has been dispelled and the opposite has been revealed to be true. Said forum owner has been explicitly opposed to Zionism since at least 2004."
First of all, you have no credibility in the matter, since you are one the causes of this mess. Called conflict of interest.
Second, NOLAJBS is a Zionist infested rat hole that makes TFC smell like roses. If that's being opposed to Zionism, it's clear where ur loyalties are.
Third, Joe Molero is a Christian Zionist opposed to Zionism? Let's see how u sell that one.
"That said, TFC's problems are, I believe, inherent ones which have been obvious to me since my first introduction to their material. Individual judgement of TFC should be based on whether one can stomach the arrogant, self- congratulatory tone, and inordinate amount of time spent denigrating others doing similar research... rather than empty allegations leveled by spurned former fans.. erm obsessive lockstep followers. =)"
Please stop using 50 cent words. We already know you are a pseudo-intellectual.
There's no e in judgment, but there may a judgment for u.
"I'd personally be interested in hearing more about viable solutions to our Zionist infestation...ways to encourage radical changes in government policy going forward (preferably without the need for firearms). Elimination of the Federal Reserve being perhaps the most attractive option... hello Ron Paul! =)"
I bet u would, so u could cause more trouble.
From UAZ:
I agree with this. All three threads deal with the same subject matter, and none of us have time to scour and scrutinise all three. I suggest we stick with the "DBS Indicted!" thread where the discussion began, and where the bulk of the posts are.
From Whitewraithe:
First of all, Whitewraithe, good to see you here. My feeling too is/was that Michael aka Fugazi is genuine. I don't know him personally, but I've watched him for awhile now and had some limited email contact with him via myspace. However, he posted a reply to a comment in his myspace blog in which he appears to be lying. The context is people using multiple handles, credibilty etc:
There are several falsehoods here. I posted a reply to it, but he's thus far refused to approve it for publication. I had an idea he'd not include it, so I saved it on wordpad:
The only reason I won't call him out as an outright liar here is by virtue of the fact that his information seems to have come from PlanetQuo. I know they're in regular IM contact (skype or something), so Jim's obviously fed him a lot of bullshit. I've already demonstrated that PlanetQuo is untrustworthy and a proven liar, three times no less.
Me:
You:
He did share the email, and he did post it on his site.
I apologise to those that've read this little exchange more than once, but I think it's important.
He refuses to reply or provide an explanation. What he has done, is create a whole page devoted to "exposing" me on his website, wherein he publishes all my personal details and even my home address. (Actually I just checked it whilst fetching the link, and he seems to have moved or removed my personal info). This is quite obviously totally uncool, and a breach of ethics by anyone's standards. He was a friend of mine, and when he lied to me and I called him on it, he set about trying to punish me for revealing it publicly.
This is the only post he's made on WUFYS since I revealed the email excerpts that prove he betrayed me. In it he totally ignores my calling him out on the lie. He knows that Mike Rivero linked to that blog of mine, so I guess he thought that'd be the most convenient place and the most public way to "expose" me. If you look at his hyperlinks, you'll see the kind of tactics this prick uses to smear people. He's a creep.
But most importantly, the guy's a liar, plain and simple. Michael's on his own as far as credibility goes, and even his is dubious. I don't know what their motives are, but I'll be watching with interest as their little operation rolls on.
From Whitewraithe:
I understand this. There's a lot of paranoia going around right now, and it's hard to know which players to trust, and what their motives are. You're dead right about one thing; actions speak louder than words.
"By their deeds, ye shall know them".
http://crimesofzion.blogspot.com/
Aah, so here he is. Finally.
PlanetQuo:
You'd like me to shut up, wouldn't you Jim? I've been quite the thorn in your side. But let's see a show of hands: who wants to hear PlanetQueer answer my allegations about his lying, and who wants to hear from Nina about Joe Molero? Which shall we address first?
You've got some 'splainin to do Jim, and you might as well do it right now. It's been five days now, and we've heard diddly squat from you. Pipe up.
http://crimesofzion.blogspot.com/
Oh my, how embarrassed I am.
Jim, you've just dropped another boring old load of non sequiturs. I stated I'd like to fuck Nina, so what? I stated that I didn't think NOLAJBS itself was a Zionist operation, so what? I said some nice things about you when we were friends, before you deceived me, so what?
What are you saying?
I just gave this thread a link to all the crap you just posted up there anyway, Jim. It's not like it's news to them.
For the last fucking time (actually, no, I won't stop asking), are you or are you not going to tell the WUFYS community why you lied through your teeth?
http://crimesofzion.blogspot.com/
Jim had in excess of 100 "friends" on his myspace profile; I was #4 on his "top friends" list.
Jim and I often spoke on MSN (instant messaging).
Jim often referred to me as "bud", and other affectionate terms in our IM contact.
And now he's asserting that we were never friends. Evidently, Jim aka PlanetQueer doesn't know what "friend" even means.
Am I lying about any of these things, PlanetQueer?
Of course, I can only assume that his "evidence" that we weren't friends is somehow supposed to justify the fact that he's a liar. According to Jim, no friendship = permission to lie and deceive.
You've brought up everything but the fact that you broke our email agreement, Jim. Stop obfuscating and explain why any of us should trust a word you fucking say?
http://crimesofzion.blogspot.com/
From tontheon:
Well, you can see that he's been stockpiling a file on me, so yeah, it's more than a bit suss. Suss and fucking creepy.
From PlanetQueer:
I deliberately didn't provide the actual number of my address, Queero. Scroll up: I revealed my address as "Fifth Ave, Mt Lawley". I'm not fucking stupid. You not only published my exact location on Fifth Ave, but you published on your site my IP address and my landline phone number, which, fortunately, is only used for my internet connection. That's about as low as it gets, you little cunt.
Nice try.
The only person you're "exposing" here is yourself.
http://crimesofzion.blogspot.com/
Look at this crap coming from "duped", which not a misnomer for such a moron, I might add. The person he's quoting is Nina aka apossumprincess:
Looks like "duped" has been aligned with the PlanetQueer/Fagarsie duo for some time now.
So who are you, "duped"? I'm betting your other name is Sean. And I'm almost certain now that this PlanetQueer/Fagarsie campaign is an intelligence (and I use that word loosely) operation.
http://crimesofzion.blogspot.com/
This is from PlanetQuo's own post, in this thread:
(Emphasis added.)
That's an excerpt from an email he wrote to me. As for the quotes I've highlighted in bold, the first is "I gave you my word that I would not reveal details.." The second is "will you give me permission to reveal the information...[?]" The permission was never given. He's since used the information therein to mount an all-out attack on the (possibly disinfo) FC operation, and has set about slandering, defaming, and "exposing" Nina and I, publishing my physical address on his website in the process. Needless to say, that's a threatening gesture and very likely illegal. He has to discredit me in order to discredit Smith, because I've shown him to be a liar; if he doesn't get me off his case, his whole operation is compromised.
It's also become apparent that he was compiling a file on me the whole time we were "friends". That in itself, is highly suspect.
When I posted excerpts from our email correspondence as evidence of his deception, I made it very clear that they were excerpts (as if it wasn't already obvious enough). But in his post, he states:
He then goes on to reproduce that particular email in full. It's up there for all to see. There's nothing in it that makes the excerpts I've presented contextually deceptive in any way, but the point was to make me look dishonest and deceitful. Nothing could be further from the truth. I've been extremely careful not to misquote anyone here or present any inaccuracies, because I know who I'm dealing with. Who puts together files like that on people, by the way? Fucking nutcases, that's who. He did one on Nina, too.
If all this doesn't raise suspicion about the PlanetQuo operation in the minds of the anti-Zionist community, I don't know what will.
http://crimesofzion.blogspot.com/
I just spotted another deception in PanetQuo's post, above:
(Emphasis added.)
In fact, I do have something to point out. PlanetQueer asserts that I "edit(ed) out" the "first four paragraphs" in my demonstration of his lies. In the email he presents above, his statement is "I gave you my word that I would not reveal details of the information on Nina that you supplied me with. It is, however, that Smith sees what she has told you otherwise I have nothing with which to confront him!"
But I didn't use that particular email to demonstrate his deception. I used (on numerous occasions) this email:
So where are the "first four paragraphs" I "edited out", you fucking liar?
I've got nothing to hide you fucking lowlife prick, and certainly not now that you've published every last detail you could find about me on your poxy little website.
Is there anything you've said up there that isn't a lie? The more you rant and lie and spin and deceive, the more your little disinformation operation is exposed for what it is.
If Fugazi knows what's good for him, he'll distance himself from you and your lies post haste, if credibility is of the slightest concern to him.
http://crimesofzion.blogspot.com/
Whitewraithe said {"Suzette though is an honest person and she was an avid follower of Daryl and Eric - she does not deserve to be treated in this hostile manner by Daryl. The emails he sent to her were distasteful and quite offensive."} I agree whole-heartedly!