israel - the ‘state’ of perpetual denial

I think it was a interesteing discussion, and the Zionists here failed to raise any significant logical objections, aside from using false premises and logical flaws and dishonesty as usual.

With regard to abuse of women etc. They would do well to learn a more sophisticated approach, if they hope to convince any clear sighted and intelligent people, otherwise they onto a loser, for they will never be able to convert everyone, and each person they fail to convert is a 'danger'.

With refrence to Zionist propaganda against Islam

see:http://www.mereislam.info/2006/11/npr-full-face-veil-and-double.html

Its long, but with some patience you can see the bull with clarity.

Qrswave, you've done a lot of great work one this site and the blogspot. It is in fact the best "truth" site on the internet. But it is inevitable that Zionists like Jebus will attack, because the better work you do here, the more insecure they will feel. They know that if enough people became aware of what they are doing, there could be a domino effect, and their power might easily be lost.

Zionist want a world without dissent, where they manipulate public opinion, by controlling all the means of communication. Their goal is to suppress all truth on the internet.

Jebus, SOT, and Miss R represent the inevitable Zionist reaction to your revealing of the truth.

advice taken.

c ya!

This is not like you QRS. As a true friend, I don't like seeing you get 'manipulated'.

Besides Jebus, there's another 'Zionist shill', and he's far more 'cunning' and dangerous.

This Jebus character is a mere distraction. The other is more sly -- using his craft to weave in and out. But it doesn't fool me. There are others, but they are insignificant.

Take a rest for now QRS. You've done a lot of good work. It's okay if every now and then the blog 'quiets down' -- the rest of us will keep it alive and kicking.

Our minds are like our bodies, it needs sleep every now and then. Do good with your (other) goals -- we can all use it.

;)

Take care

get lost, Jebus

the link you offered is dead, but the homepage is obviously zionist-influenced and infiltrated.

Reads like the New York Sun or the Weekly Standard, i.e., a rag.

Have you ever lived in an Islamic nation?

I don't just 'act' like I know what I'm talking about - I speak from both knowledge and experience.

And I did not say that women are not abused by some men who call themselves Muslim. I simply said that it is no more prevalent among Muslim men than it is among men who call themselves by any other faith, or non-faith, for that matter.

All your efforts at imposing your distorted West-o-centric view on me are futile.

I wasn't born yesterday and, Thank God, I have quite a discerning eye for truth amidst nonsense.

"I think problems with piracy, economic issues, human rights, and taiwan might have been solved by now if the U.S. had the ability to co-erce China very well.

I really don't know though I guess"

Get a clue, first. That's always a good start.

And you can begin by ridding yourself of the unwarranted supposition that the "US" always means well "but, simply can't convert the heathens."

A very imperialistic and narrow view of reality.

A failure of the imagination, as Arhundati Roy would say.

Look for "9/11 - No More Mr. Nice Guy" at this blog. You might learn something.

I've heard many people here ask why the Israelis do what they've been doing. Invading this territory, bombing that ship, destroying these houses, shooting those children, and so on.

When these people ask this question they don't also acknowledge that the Israelis try to explain themselves. They say they have been unfairly attacked, they've been bombed, people are threatening them, they are persecuted, they are killed without reason, and so on.

I think the answer to the oft stated question about why the Israelis engage in what others think criminal behavior has to consider that they have grievences themselves.

This is to say that any answer to why these people do any of this has to acknowledge that both sides feel they are being attacked and killed and persecuted unjustly.

This is a better place to ask the question, then asking it while never allowing that the other side has a point.

You are lame and you are BORING. Anyone want to guess WHO is the target of this? Lame and frankly anyone fogging the issues like you is israeli. So go away israel your not getting anywhere here. We are not interested in jewish logic and israeli political mendacity. The world is moving TOTALLY away from further israeli action blindness. The world is now going to start PUNCHING isreal.

HARD!

I found an interesting survey, maybe you already heard about it:

Survey: Israel worst brand name in the world
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=10395

P.S. - The reason for Olmart's about face on his admission of nuclearity is that U.S. law forbids military aid to any STATE admittedly in possession of nuclear weapons who did not sign the nuclear nonproliferation treaty.

Not that U.S. law is worth the paper it is written on with the wholly owned AIPAC subsidiary known as Congress. They would just make the argument that the zionist foothold is not a State at all, since it has no declared borders and no Constitution.

The Rothschilds, one of whom has his picture on the zionist shekel note, have coveted the oil of the middle east since the initial oil find in Baku, then in the Ottoman empire.

They engineered the genocide of the Armenians to remove their claims on the area, and they have been playing "let's burn the Semite ants with a magnifying glass" ever since.

They engineered the establishment of a zionist foothold in Palestine, and had the Golan heights siezed because Lord Rothschild owned extensive estates there and preferred Zionist rule to Syrian.

They are using the Hessians (expendable, indebted Americans) to dismember the nation of Iraq in order to resetablish the pipeline from the undeveloped oilfields in the heretofore untouchable by agreement northern oilfield. They intend to make "New Rotterdam" Haifa the center of oil commerce for the middle world.

It's all part of the Rothschild's "Greater Israel" strategy, and these matoids work in timeframes of centuries, not years. They intend to develop a kingdom that will rule the world consisting of all the lands that the ancient Hebrew, Israelite, Judah, and Khazar groups ever occupied or were held captive in. That, of course, means the subjugation of the Semite and Caucasian natives, whom they regard as subhuman.

It always involves pitting the filthy "Goy" against each other. Nothing could please them more than Sunni and Shia going at it with Christians caught in the middle, unless you could somehow bring the Hindus into the fray.

It's all very neatly planned with lots of fluid options and a long term horizon. And they have the counterfeiting monopoly (reserve banks) that can pull it off.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.
Better yet, Be Aware.

The most profound agent of change for the economy of Saudi Arabia was the discovery of huge reserves of oil by a United States company in 1938 [10 years before the establishment of the state of israel].

Initially, the newly established oil industry had only an indirect impact on this primitive economy. The establishment of the Arabian American Oil Company (Aramco, predecessor of Saudi Aramco) and the oil towns around the oil fields triggered major changes in the economy of the kingdom, especially in the Eastern Province.

This is not a coincidence - it's all about OIL and world domination.

israel and its massive nuclear arsenal keeps all the oil rich Arab countries in check.

The fact that some Christian evangelicals believe that Jews are entitled to the holy land, even by death and destruction, is merely a means to an end.

Zionists are NOT real Jews. They never were and they never will be.

Oversight of israeli activity on ANYTHING is and will allways be VERBOTEN! This was just to throw down on the "Don't fuck with israel" dogma. And it sure did that job. The Americans are so SCARED of the whore israel that ANYTHING GOES now.

Well Palestine IS coming and nothing is going to halt the restoration of THERE state. EVERY SQUARE INCH OF IT!

Okay.

Another thing that is bugging me about the Zionists is that why go to all that trouble and effort...almost perpetual war since 1945 or even earlier, the economic and political domination of the west and shaping its opinions via the mass media? All this takes alot of effort, alot of bloodshed, alot of money and alot of hatred of jews generally...it seems crazy to me to go to all that trouble just for some medditereinian real estate...which they could have bought with their own money with little effort and little cost, bloodeshed.

I am trying to understand these people are they mad?

But, they were caught red-handed.

It's as simple as that.

israelis only admit something after they're caught in the act.

israelis have no loyalties and THAT is why they have no friends - NOT the other way around. 

So the Zionists take it out and 'pretend' it is a accident?

This ignores that they will be provoking a important allie (the US), surely it pays them to have the US on side both in terms of via 'the stick' and 'the carrot'.

If they were doing it to blame Egypt whay did they say it was a accident by themselves?

The primary reason was that the liberty was Electronically spying on israeli's and was taken out to prevent "UNFORESEEN consequences" of disclosure of israeli crimes

for bombing the USS Liberty, if I'm not mistaken, including trying to frame Egyptians and trying to prevent Americans from gathering intelligence that would have exposed israeli plans to seize the Golan Heights.

The west acts as a cheerleader or simply presents the Zionists perspective as 'fact' because the west is a Zionist occupied and controled region, anyone who might dare to criticise Isreal will be severly dealt with, loss of livelihood, death threats, smearing etc. etc.

So any ideas as to why they intentionally bombed the USS liberty?

it's high time people stopped denying the obvious - israel is a rogue state founded on supremacism and should no more be tolerated than apartheid South Africa was.

What I find more disturbing than the justifications that continually come out of Israel about their enjoyment of killing of innocent people, the removal of Palestinians, the collective punishment of Lebanon, and covert activities against nations all across the world, is the ability of the west to just sit and watch it all happen and do nothing. The denial of the "westernized" states is as incredible as the atrocities themselves. The leadership and people of the main stream media continually act as cheerleaders for the atrocities committed by Israel, and the US is always running interference to allow Israel to do what they want. Why do Europeans, Americans, Canadians and Australians continue to cheer Israel on?

The one sided MSM may the greatest degenerates of them all, leading the cheerleading of genocide while the pacified take it all in and revel in the pain of human plight.

When a physical atrocity cannot be denied, such as Qana II, Israelis take the next step: "We are investigating."

They're still "investigating" the assault on the Liberty.

One thing, though: don't investigate the Holocaust, or you may be imprisoned.