especially coming from debka...I remember them using same tactics in preparation for Iraq war...I know some stuff from army service in my own country and one way of waging psy-ops on enemies is to keep them constantly anticipating attack until it wears them down and they stop paying attention to intelligence "leaks" like that one...once they achieve that state of mind within enemy apparatus then attack is done under least expected circumstances...In this case however Iran is advised to prepare its own preemptive plans for lightning response before its main bulk of military systems is destroyed in rapid bombardments. Having in mind level of expertise Iranian army possesses I would be surprised if they did not already designated their own targets of enemy installations in ME and prepared how to take them down without direct command from top command which certainly will be disrupted once US attack starts. I doubt they would attack before holy month of Ramadan is over as this would enrage even most of the Arab dictators that have grudge against Iran. I am sure that Iranians learned that best defense against attack is swift counterattack.

"Let there be Light!"

"One way of waging psy-ops on enemies is to keep them constantly anticipating attack until it wears them down, and they stop paying attention to intelligence 'leaks' like that one."

Good point. I suspect the same tactic is also directed at Americans.

Keep Americans guessing.

Keep them afraid.

Keep saying, “All options are on the table.”

Keep threatening until the public is so weary of it all that they don’t care anymore.

Keep the public so anxious that they become like condemned prisoners who just want to get their execution over with.

AZ you are very finely tuned into less perceptible realities and your analysis proves it quite confidently. I always thought that war is one by minds and hearts and weaponry comes second.

"Let there be Light!"

Yes.

All wars are wars for the control of the mind.

All wars.

Everything else is incidental.

zionism, of course, seeks to control our mind. That is why zionists place so much emphasis on protecting lies, such as the "holocaust," and a million other lies. The zionist is at war with the Gentile mind.

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On a different note, a religious leader in India told me, "War is what happens when the mind runs wild."

He said we humans are spiritual beings, but in order to operate in this world, we must have physical bodies and a mind. The mind, like the body, is just a covering for the soul. However we tend to forget this when we are here in this world. We may overcome our cravings, and overcome our addictions to sensory stimuli and bodily lust and hunger, but it is much more difficult to overcome our mind.

The mind, he said, is useful. It can do wonders. It can build bridges and go to other planets. But when it takes control of us, it is savage. "The mind," he said, "is an excellent servant, but a harsh master."

How do we overcome the mind? We cannot. It is impossible, for to overcome the mind, we must use the mind, which keeps us locked in the cycle.

Therefore, our path is through prayer and meditation. With persistence, he said, we will glimpse the Eternal, and then we will know. We will no longer fight against the mind. We will simply regard it as a tool.

"You must glimpse the Eternal," he said, "for it is human nature to never give up one thing until we find something else we like better. Only when you have your glimpse will you find something better than the mind.

Then you will be like a person who can fly. You may stay here in this world for your pleasure if you wish, but you will not be chained to it.

"All of us are gods who imagine we are termites."

In Zen Buddhism, the challenge is to grasp that there is no difference between enlightenment and non-enlightenment. Each of us is already enlightened. The trick is to realize this simple fact.

Then there's Islam, whose mystics say, "You and the Beloved are one, and always have been. Your task is to remember this." And so, when the muezzin calls the faithful to prayer, he calls out, "Come back, come back, no matter how many times you have strayed, come back." He means come back to Allah. Come back to yourself. Come back to who you really are. (At least, that's how I interpret it.)

now for people to free themselves from the clutches of rational mind and soar to Divine reality Islam has set up certain rules which would provide healthy and appropriate living conditions to enable humanity to achieve realization of its purpose in overall Existence. People in general don't like rules and limitation's and this is due to that limitless Divine spark from which they derive life and existence in corporeal world. However there are beings in Heavenly worlds that do not have these rules because their awareness of Divine is on very high level and their naturally live in accordance with Divine pleasure. Qur'an speaks of these beings on other heavens and earths and inform us that they are all within the Absolute Dominion of Almighty. Some Muslim saints (awliya) have mentioned visiting those other worlds and interacting with their inhabitants but this is less known to general population of Muslims who mainly limit their spiritual aspiration on basic of Islam (Five pillars of Islam). Almighty also mentions purpose of the creation of mankind and jinn by saying that they were created to worship God and arabic term used is "liyabudoon" is interpreted by Ibn Abbas to mean as to attain Realization or Recognition of God (marifatullah). Muslim's Religion (Deen) has three parts or phases. Faith (Iman), Submission (Islam) and Awareness (Ihsan). This is clearly mentioned in authentic Prophetic saying:
http://www.searchtruth.com/searchHadith.php?keyword=ihsan&translator=1&s...

Faith comes in through utilization of rational mind, practical submission is conditioning and fertilizing human soul for Divine enlightenment or Ihsan. Prophet of Islam said clearly that the greatest form of Jihad or struggle is with one's self. And this is so true that proofs of its veracity you can find everyday wherever you are. But the main objective of Muslim's faith and submission is to achieve state of awareness of God (Ihsan). By the way Ihsan is also translated as goodness as opposite to evil or corruption of soul. So you see now that many religions share this awareness of Divine as the main objective of their religion. However lower and corrupted souls seek supernatural or natural powers to play gods over the rest of creatures which is quite opposite of the purpose behind the creation of mankind.

"Let there be Light!"

This is zionist disinfo to induce fear. Threatening, trying to provoke a response.

The zionists lie - that's what they do best.

He said we humans are spiritual beings, but in order to operate in this world, we must have physical bodies and a mind. The mind, like the body, is just a covering for the soul. However we tend to forget this when we are here in this world.

YES. This is what all near death experiencers discover. On earth we do not have the mind of God. Absolutely.

"All of us are gods who imagine we are termites."

YES. Indeed, by birth we forget who we really are - that we are all powerful spiritual light beings that came from our real home, to live on this planet to do the work, to try to remember who we really are. VERY HARD TO DO. The trappings of earth and our bodies make it very difficult.

Then there's Islam, whose mystics say, "You and the Beloved are one, and always have been. Your task is to remember this." And so, when the muezzin calls the faithful to prayer, he calls out, "Come back, come back, no matter how many times you have strayed, come back." He means come back to Allah. Come back to yourself. Come back to who you really are. (At least, that's how I interpret it.)

YES! And much earlier you mentioned a Hindu scholar (?) who said to you that there is no deceit in the afterlife. YES. You become who you really are and your thoughts are never hidden from anyone – but they are hidden on earth. On earth we do not have the mind of God. Very true! Also, in the Afterlife, you cannot hide the personality you were and what you have done on earth. NEVER. In the Afterlife you will relive it from others' reaction to your good or bad treatment towards them.

But as for coming back as insects, I can’t agree with this. I have never heard of it; and a few books I have read negate this concept. Anyway, that’s how I feel about it.

”And much earlier you mentioned a Hindu scholar (?) who told you that there is no deceit in the afterlife. YES. You become who you really are and your thoughts are never hidden from anyone – but they are hidden on earth. On earth we do not have the mind of God. Very true! Also, in the Afterlife, you cannot hide the personality you were and what you have done on earth. NEVER. In the Afterlife you will relive it from others' reaction to your good or bad treatment towards them.”

That was a religious leader who lived in Punjab (a state in India). I encountered him in the city of Agra, which is further south. He said deceit is not possible in the “other realms,” because each of us knows instantly the full nature and identity of whichever being is before us. He said each being’s thoughts and his/her past is instantly visible. We just “know.” It is only on earth that we can conceal ourselves, and even then, we don’t do a very good job of it. If we get away with murder, it’s mainly because others allow it.

”But as for coming back as insects, I can’t agree with this. I have never heard of it; and a few books I have read negate this concept. Anyway, that’s how I feel about it.”

Yeah, I’m skeptical about that, but let me say one thing in its defense. I’m just musing here. Most of us have regrets in life, yes? Bad choices we made, opportunities we squandered, times when we were foolish, and so on. These things haunt us, especially when we try to do better. As far as I know, I have never murdered anyone, yet I am filled with regret and remorse. Now imagine someone like Bush or Cheney or Chertoff, or all these zionists, or bankers, or dictators, or all the people in the world that cause suffering to thousands of other people, even millions. It seems to me that if they were to wake up and have regret for what they did, there is no way they could cope with it. I myself am tortured and haunted by a past that’s quite ordinary. How much worse would such torture be for an Ariel Sharon, or a Kissinger, or someone like that? Is it possible that such people can only be redeemed if they start over, so to speak? I mean, be reborn as a non-human? I don’t know.

The idea seems loony, but what’s the alternative? Such people would have to remain in a separate realm for all eternity. No one would want to talk to Ben Gurion, for example. Either the person would not “get it,” in which case there would be nothing to talk about, or else he would have infinite regret, in which case you’d be sucked into his misery. Wouldn’t someone like Ben Gurion have to go where there are others of their kind? Maybe if they want to get out, they must “start over.” I don’t know. I’m just speculating wildly. Like I said, the idea is probably loony.

Let me switch to a different subject and make an observation. As we get older, most of us (not all) start to wake up. Our heart softens. We value children. We see how important love is. We regret our mistakes. And so on. However, consider the case of people that have power. Consider Cheney, or “General” Than Shwe of Burma--seventy-four years old, and still a butcher. In fact, the older they get, the more murderous they get. Are they not in the grip of Satan, or the Negative Power (or whatever it is)? Thus, is it so bad for the rest of us to spend our lives as nobodies? Is power not a trap? These madmen – Cheney, Netanyahu, and all the rest – they have lost all touch with reality. They give no thought to wiping out 3,000 people on 9-11, or bombing Iran. Would you like to be in that condition, with no compassion? I wouldn’t. Cheney’s 66 years old, and still a butcher. Kissinger is 74, and has no regret for what he’s done. Jabba the Hut (Ariel Sharon) spent his entire life as a psychopath, and had a stroke when he was 78.

What does that have to do with what you were discussing? Nothing. It’s just that I saw a photo today of Cheney, and I thought, “Wow. Even at his age he has no clue, and he never will have a clue.”

Here’s a scary thought…what if these people will have no problem at all in the afterlife? I mean, there is a food chain in nature, yes? One critter eats another, and gets eaten by another. At the top of the food chain is man. Within man as a whole is a food chain. People at the top (such as international bankers) eat people on the next level down, and those people eat people below them, and so on. Americans, to some extent, live at the expense of people in “third world” countries. We “eat” them. So…w all occupy a place on the food chain. If Cheney is to be punished because he occupied one level of the food chain, then maybe we will be punished for occupying our own place in the food chain.

Maybe not.

It’s just “food for thought.”

If Cheney is to be punished because he occupied one level of the food chain, then maybe we will be punished for occupying our own place in the food chain.

There is no doubt in my mind that that would be the case - if God were not so Forgiving.

Each of us is responsible for our actions. But, there are two types of people:

Human beings who REALIZE that we are only human (not gods) and who realize that we ARE indeed accountable to a higher being (whether or not you believe that He created us).

After screwing up, these people generally cannot help but feel regret, remorse, fear and other intense feelings you would expect from a being who appreciates that they are vulnerable to some power greater than man.

Generally, provided that these people continuously ask for forgiveness and guidance, God forgives and guides them to salvation.

The other type is deluded. They believe they are gods on earth, unaccountable for their sins and therefore, in their minds, only vulnerable insofar as they can be punished and humbled BY OTHER PEOPLE.

These people believe only in power and control. They are obsessed with it because it's the only way that they can "demonstrate" their deluded theory to themselves.

Of course, it simply feeds into the delusion and keeps them deluded until it's too late for them to "wakeup," so to speak.

Presumably, these arrogant cretins end up in hell-fire for eternity (if it were up to me).

But, of course, only He who has control over these things KNOWS the truth. We can only speculate and believe (or not believe). The Truth will overcome us all, regardless.

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"Money" has no value - people do.

One life but many chances to repent and mend your ways. Insects and animals are not liable to judgment but we are and Justice will catch up with us wherever we are. All these ziodevils still have chance/time to repent and mend their evil ways but they chose not to, so they will face their own evil in form of the Hell terror.

Qur'an:

Chapter 23:106-111

They will say: "our Lord! Our misfortune overwhelmed us, and we became a people astray!
"Our Lord! bring us out of this: if ever we return (to Evil), then shall we be wrong-doers indeed!"
He will say: "Be ye driven into it (with ignominy)! And speak ye not to Me!
"A part of My servants there was, who used to pray 'our Lord! we believe; then do Thou forgive us, and have mercy upon us: For Thou art the Best of those who show mercy!"
"But ye treated them with ridicule, so much so that (ridicule of) them made you forget My Message while ye were laughing at them!
"I have rewarded them this Day for their patience and constancy: they are indeed the ones that have achieved Bliss..."

Chaper 42:44-47

For any whom Allah leaves astray, there is no protector thereafter. And thou wilt see the Wrong-doers, when in sight of the Penalty, Say: "Is there any way (to effect) a return?"
And thou wilt see them brought forward to the (Penalty), in a humble frame of mind because of (their) disgrace, (and) looking with a stealthy glance. And the Believers will say: "Those are indeed in loss, who have given to perdition their own selves and those belonging to them on the Day of Judgment. Behold! Truly the Wrong-doers are in a lasting Penalty!"
And no protectors have they to help them, other than Allah. And for any whom Allah leaves to stray, there is no way (to the Goal).
Hearken ye to your Lord, before there come a Day which there will be no putting back, because of (the Ordainment of) Allah. that Day there will be for you no place of refuge nor will there be for you any room for denial (of your sins)!

Chaper 15:2-3

Often will those who disbelieve wish that they had been Muslims.
Leave them that they may eat and enjoy themselves and (that) hope may beguile them, for they will soon know.

Chaper 25:25-29

And on the day when the heaven shall burst asunder with the clouds, and the angels shall be sent down descending (in ranks).
The kingdom on that day shall rightly belong to the Beneficent Allah, and a hard day shall it be for the unbelievers.
And the day when the unjust one shall bite his hands saying: O! would that I had taken a way with the Messenger
O woe is me! would that I had not taken such a one for a friend !
Certainly he led me astray from the reminder after it had come to me; and the Shaitan (Satan) fails to aid man.

Chaper 37:20-39

They will say, "Ah! Woe to us! This is the Day of Judgment!"
(A voice will say,) "This is the Day of Sorting Out, whose truth ye (once) denied!"
"Bring ye up", it shall be said, "The wrong-doers and their wives, and the things they worshiped-
"Besides Allah, and lead them to the Way to the (Fierce) Fire!
"But stop them, for they must be asked:
"'What is the matter with you that ye help not each other?'"
Nay, but that day they shall submit (to Judgment);
And they will turn to one another, and question one another.
They will say: "It was ye who used to come to us from the right hand (of power and authority)!"
They will reply: "Nay, ye yourselves had no Faith!
"Nor had we any authority over you. Nay, it was ye who were a people in obstinate rebellion!
"So now has been proved true, against us, the word of our Lord that we shall indeed (have to) taste (the punishment of our sins).
"We led you astray: for truly we were ourselves astray."
Truly, that Day, they will (all) share in the Penalty.
Verily that is how We shall deal with Sinners.
For they, when they were told that there is no god except Allah, would puff themselves up with Pride,
And say: "What! shall we give up our gods for the sake of a Poet possessed?"
Nay! he has come with the (very) Truth, and he confirms (the Message of) the apostles (before him).
Ye shall indeed taste of the Grievous Penalty;-
But it will be no more than the retribution of (the Evil) that ye have wrought;

Chapter 78:38-40

The Day on which the Spirit and the angels shall stand in ranks; they shall not speak except he whom the Beneficent Allah permits and who speaks the right thing.
That is the sure day, so whoever desires may take refuge with his Lord.
Surely We have warned you of a chastisement near at hand: the day when man shall see what his two hands have sent before, and the unbeliever shall say: O! would that I were dust!

Chapter 99:6-8

On that Day will men proceed in companies sorted out, to be shown the deeds that they (had done).
Then shall anyone who has done an atom's weight of good, see it!
And anyone who has done an atom's weight of evil, shall see it.

Chaptr 43:36-39

And whoever turns himself away from the remembrance of the Beneficent Allah, We appoint for him a Shaitan (devil), so he becomes his associate.
And most surely they turn them away from the path, and they think that they are guided aright:
Until when he comes to Us, he says: O would that between me and you there were the distance of the East and the West; so evil is the associate!
And since you were unjust, it will not profit you this day that you are sharers in the chastisement.

"Let there be Light!"

You have said things that I have got to remember.

Q and traveler made some profound points too.

I will say this for now:

When I say the mind of God I am talking about Love, patience, and knowledge that none of us on earth have; that we can hardly comprehend the intensity, nor the vastness of this love, patience, and knowledge of this God / Force / Supreme Being.

We as humans just have extreme tiny pieces of it.
And if we just have those tiny pieces - on this planet - that in itself says something good for us.

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I need to get back to you on the other things you mention at a later time.

:-)