In response to Peter Chamberlain’s post about Bush’s threats to blockade Syria, here’s some info about Russia’s bases in Syria.
The main base is at the port of Tartus. A smaller base is at Latakia.
Jews are screaming about them…
Russia’s lease on the port of Sevastopol (Crimean area of Ukraine) will expire in 2017, and Russia wants a new place for its Black Sea fleet. Ukraine charges Russia $93 million per year for using the Sevastopol base, and Ukraine keeps demanding more money.
Bashar al-Assad does not charge the Russians for using Latakia and Tartus, nor does he charge them for water or electricity. Over three decades, Assad's father (Hafiz Assad) received $25 billlion worth of military equipment from Russia. When Basher al-Assad took over, Syria was still $11 billion in debt. In 2006, Putin brought Assad to the Kremlin and forgive more than 70% of that debt, in return for continued free use of Latkia and Tartus, and for concessions in Syria's natural gas.
Originally Russia started using the Tartus base in 1971. Today Russian workers are dredging the harbor, and also building a dock at Latakia. Syrian marines guard the Russian workers.
Both ports are within easy striking distance of Ceyhan, the Turkish outlet for the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline from the Caspian Sea.
HISTORICAL BACKGROUND
Russia has wanted a warm water base in the Mediterranean for 300 years. In the late 1700s, Russia’s Baltic Fleet fought the Ottomans in the Mediterranean. At the end of the 1800s and the beginning of the 1900s, (still fighting the Ottomans) the Russian navy supported Greece, which was linked to the Romanovs through dynastic ties. In 1913 the Czar signed an agreement with France to base Russian ships at Bizerta (Tunisia) but the agreement was dropped when the Czar was murdered by Jews.
In 1958 Russia established a permanent submarine base at Vlyora (Albania), but the Albanians later closed the base. In 1964 Russia signed an agreement with Egypt’s Nasser to have servicing stations at Alexandria and Mersa Matruh -- plus Port Said from 1967 to 1972. Later relations soured between Egypt and Russia, so Russian ships in the Mediterranean (5th Rapid Response Squadron) started using Tartus and Latakia, plus small ports in Tunisia and Libya.
In 1977 the Soviet 54th Rapid Response Brigade of service vessels evacuated their bases at Alexandria and Mersa-Matruh. Also in 1977, Russia established the 229th Naval and Estuary Vessel Support Division at Tartus. In 1984 Russia also established a logistics support point there.
In 1991, the USSR collapsed, Jewish gangsters took over, the Mediterranean Squadron ceased to exist, and the Tartus base fell into disrepair. Since then, Russian vessels visit the Mediterranean only for short periods.
In 1996 the Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov visited Tartus.
In February 2006 the Russian guided missile cruiser Moskva visited Latakia. This is the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet, and is much larger than it appears in the photos below (850 crewmen). Its commander, Vice Admiral Vassily Kondakov, met with the head of Syria's navy to discuss upgrades at Latakia and Tartus.
The Moskva is the only modern ship in the Black Sea fleet. The fleet has four large surface ships (a Kerch antisubmarine cruiser and three frigates) but these are obsolete. Russia may add ships from its Northern Fleet (including one or two nuclear-powered submarines) plus some of the new Project 20380 Steregushy class corvettes.
As Peter Chamberlain notes, the Moskva is now in Tartus again, and has engaged in Mediterranean exercises.
When Vietnam closed its Russian base at Cam Ranh, and Cuba closed its Russian base at Lourdes, The Tartus base in Syria became Russia’s only remaining permanent foreign base.(Latakia is not a base; its just has a mooring facility.)
At Tartus, Russian ships refuel and receive potable water. Tartus has a floating mooring with two prefabricated and demountable metallic storehouses, three floating docks (of which only one is operational), a diesel workshop, a barracks, mess-room, storage facilities, and an administrative building. All these facilities are being expanded.
Also at Tartus is a Russian repair ship that maintains vessels from the Black Sea fleet.
Tartus was founded by the Phoenicians, conquered by the Crusaders in 1102, and subsequently attacked by Arab conqueror Saladin. Located 160 kilometers northwest of Damascus, it has always been considered strategically important. Today it is Syria’s second biggest port.
The Russian naval base at Tartus covers 100 acres. About 300 Russians work under the command of sea captain Vladimir Gudkov, a former officer in Russia's North Sea fleet. When Gudkov was transferred to Syria from Sevastopol, the Tartus base was run-down, so Gudkov brought in repair teams from Sevastopol, and began upgrades.
Syrian marines guard the 300 Russian workers.
RUSSIAN – SYRIAN RELATIONS
Syria is Russia's most important trading partner in the region. Thirty-five thousand Syrians hold degrees from Russian universities.
Syria’s 308,000 troops are equipped almost exclusively with Soviet gear, including 4,600 tanks, which are mainly outdated T-62, T-72, and T-80 models, plus 600 MIG and Sukhoi fighter jets, plus 170 helicopters, and two diesel-powered submarines.
In December 2005, Russia and Syria signed a $370 agreement in the gas sector. This agreement presupposes the Russian construction of a section of pipeline that ends in the Syrian city of Ar Rayyan, and of a gas processing plant next to Palmyra, built by Stroitransgaz -- Russia's most important engineering company in the oil and gas industry.
Russia is upgrading Syria's systems – such as S-300PMU-2 Favorit missiles.
Syria also wants upgrades of its tanks. Russia may also sell Syria some Tor-M1 anti-aircraft missile systems. (Tor-M1s have already been sold to Iran.)
Putin guaranteed the delivery of Russian Streletz anti-aircraft missiles (referred to as SA-18s in NATO parlance). These are carriage-mounted weapons with a range of six kilometers (about four miles) that will prevent Jews from repeating a 2006 performance on which their F-16 fighter jets few low around Assad's summer residence near Tartus. (The Jews’ recent incursion into Syrian airspace was probably to test other Russian air defenses.)
In Damascus, an office of Rosoboronexport (Russia's state-owned arms exporter) is supplying Syria with new guidance systems and spare parts for tanks, ammunition, and modern electronics systems for MIG-21 fighter jets.
All told, Syria has ordered Russian weapons valued at more than $1 billion, including Su-27 pursuit planes, MIG-29 fighter jets and T-80 tanks.
The Jews say Iran is paying for all this (which is extremely doubtful.) As Peter Chamberlain notes, Syria now pays Russia in euros rather than dollars, therey removing a financial weapon used by the U.S. Treasury.
Jews are especially worried about Syria’s acquisition of 1,000 Russian Kornet-E anti-tank guided missiles, which have a range of 5.5 kilometers (3.4 miles), and can knock out any Merkava tank. Syria also has AT-14 anti-tank missiles, and SA 5 Gammon anti-air missiles.
About 10,000 Syrian officers have received training at Russian military academies, with a fresh crop of pilots and air defense specialists currently attending Russia's air force academy.
In return, Russia has about 2,000 military advisors in Syria (separately from the Tartus base). Some of them teach at Syria's military officer training academy.
Russians in Syria are paid three times as much as regular military personnel, and a tour of duty usually lasts three years. Russians wear Syrian military uniforms, and are required to spend free time with their families in isolated compounds. If they are lucky, they get a small vacation on Latakia's sandy, palm-lined beaches.
Meanwhile Bashar al-Assad has good a relationship with pro-Russian Chechen groups (as opposed to anti-Russian groups, supported by the Israelis).
JEWISH WHINING
Jews and their American bitches vilify Assad, but they secretly work with him, because Assad oppresses fundamentalists, and allows the CIA to send victims to Syrian dungeons. (Mossad often sends victims to Jordanian dungeons.)
However the Jews claim that Russia is upgrading the Tartus base so Russia can operate spy ships against ziostan. Jews say the two ports will conduct electronic surveillance of the entire Middle East, thereby offsetting zionist hegemony.
Jews and their American slaves would like to keep the Russians out of the Mediterranean, especially since Bush wants a U.S. military base in Lebanon.
RUSSIAN UPGRADES IT OWN MILITARY
Russia would like to have a naval presence in the Mediterranean, but this would be very expensive, and the Navy is the most expensive of Russia’s armed forces. (The Air Force is the most expensive for the USA.)
However Russia is taking advantage of high oil revenues, and has embarked on a $189 billion military upgrade. (In 2006, Russian arms exports reached $8 billion, and are climbing.)
In May 2007 Admiral Vladimir Masorin (commander of the Russian Navy) announced that Russia would resume building aircraft carriers.
During Soviet times the Russians built five aircraft carriers at a shipyard in Nikolayev, Ukraine. When the USSR fell and the zio-gangsters took over, the Russians lost this shipyard, and sold three of their old carriers abroad as scrap.
To build aircraft carriers, Russia needs new shipyards of sufficient size, and is considering the Sevmash shipyard at Severodvinsk in the Russian North, which built nuclear submarines in the past. Today Sevmash is refurbishing the carrier Admiral Gorshkov for sale to India, but the project is far behind schedule. (Russia has never been good at building aircraft carriers.)
RUSSIA AND THE WEST
Relations between Russia and zionist England are now at the lowest point since the Cold War. Berezovsky and other zio-gangsters that fled Russia (and now live in England) have demanded that Russia extradite people that the murderous gangsters say murdered Litvinenko. Russia refuses. Therefore the Jews expelled four Russian diplomats from England. Russia is threatening to throw out 84 of the 90 diplomats working at the British embassy in Moscow.
In mid-July 2007, Russia’s Foreign Ministry announced that Russia would no longer cooperate with the zio-British “war on terror.” Simultaneously Russia pulled out of a key treaty regulating conventional armed forces in Europe.
Days later, two Tu-95 Russian "Bear" bombers took off from a base on the Kola Peninsula in the Arctic Circle. Russian military aircraft from the northern port city of Murmansk regularly fly patrols off the Norwegian coast, but this time the bombers approached Scotland, and turned back just before reaching British airspace. Two Norwegian F-16 fighter jets, plus two British Tornado aircrafts intercepted them. The Russians say this was a “training exercise” for long-distance flight crews.
If Bush puts his missiles in Poland, Russia will also pull out of its 1987 treaty with the USA banning intermediate range missiles.
A PLEASANT THOUGHT
What if all these armies ganged up against the zionist entity?
China 1,400,000 troops
India 800,000 troops
North Korea 800,000 troops
South Korea 400,000 troops
Pakistan 400,000 troops
Russia 240,000 troops
Iran 240,000 troops
Egypt 220,000 troops
Syria 160,000 troops
That’s 4,660,000 troops against the “shitty little state.” Three of those nations have nukes.
These numbers don’t include Turkey’s 380,000 troops, or Southeast Asia, where most of the world’s Muslims live.
COMIC RELIEF
Finally, “Christian” zionists say Russia is the evil “Magog” that will attack the righteous “Gog,” led by Jews and their American bitch. They say the prophet Ezekiel spoke of a Russian invasion of Israel, which has not yet been fulfilled. (Ezekiel 38:1-4)
If you look at a “Christian” zionists’ justification for this, you will see that these morons could well be talking about Khazars as the evil "Magog" force that will fight the righteous Khazar "Gog" force!
Gog and Magog |gôg and m??gäg|
1 in the Bible, the names of enemies of God's people. In Ezek. 38–9, Gog is apparently a ruler from the land of Magog, while in Rev. 20:8, Gog and Magog are nations under the dominion of Satan.
2 (in medieval legend) opponents of Alexander the Great, living north of the Caucasus.
If one believes the legends that says Gog and Magog are under the dominion of Satan, then it's easy to figure out what two nations these are:
Israel and my country, the USA.
Take this line of thought one step further, like the deceased Pope John Paul II, did, and you might conclude Bush is the Anti-Christ.
At the very least, the blood-thirsty Bush is the head of a Christian Blood Cult.
"Bush's blood lust, his repeated commitment to Christian beliefs, and his constant references to "evil doers," in the eyes of many devout Catholic leaders, bear all the hallmarks of the one warned about in the Book of Revelations - the anti-Christ. People close to the Pope claim that amid these concerns, the Pontiff wishes he was younger and in better health to confront the possibility that Bush may represent the person prophesized in Revelations."
Interesting times, indeed.
Excellent report. Russia's weakness has always been the lack of a good warm water port contiguous to the industrial heartland. Even the Syrian ports offer limited advantage in the Med other than spying and sub resupply.
The question of Turkey - in my estimation, Turkey is and always has been the original crypto-zionist state in the middle east. There is no chance they would oppose ziostan. They are, however, always walking the tightrope of exposure to their Muslim population. That said, I see no way that a Muslim rebellion could prevail against the crypto Turkish military.
Russia is making great strides in reestablishing itself outside the realm of The City, but it faces a diminishing population problem that will be difficult to overcome. Putin's greatest challenge is to get the Russians to reestablish the family unit now that some level of stability, even prosperity, has returned.
Russia, the State, must resist becoming a corporate life support system for Gazprom, which could well become the world's largest, wealthiest enterprise. If not, taking over Russia will be but a matter of a hostile takeover of Gazprom.
Russia's relationship with China is always an double edged sword. China has a hard time not coveting the undermanned resources of east Siberia, lest we forget the Amur River war.
India, at it's essence, is still a subsidiary of it's Charter enterprise, the British East India Company. No religion is more zionist at it's core than Hinduism and, when pressed, you can bet that India will side with The City.
I agree that only three of those states are nuclear. "When strong, feign weakness. When weak, feign strength."
Turkey: It is regrettable such a beautiful country, beautiful and warm people, blessed climate and geographical position, rich in history, and now highly educated population, to be alas culturally so lost.
This cultural spellbound will not shatter and bloom as long as they have to call themselves Turks, a false identity. The falsehood of it is best demonstrated by the law that protects it. As they say truth does not need a law to protect it.
How many countries are out there that they have a law that says if you insult your own identity we can put you in jail. (80% of WUFYS posters would have been in jail if we had that law here.)
Unfortunately the cultural liberation of people in turkey might be tethered to the fall of Azrael and defanging of the reptiles lurking in the turkish military.
Russia: Russians should really be proud of Putin who put a mongurk infested crumbling country back together in such a short period of time and in such a honorable way that now can say No to any one they deem appropriate. Maybe russians can loan him to people in turkey for his retirement project to clean up turkey's Khodorovskis.
btw. it might be a nice vignette to know where the name Russia comes from. Iranians called russians 'the people of the land of day' because of their long winters and bright nights as the snow covered landscape reflected moonlight. It got shorter to 'day people' and since day in Persian is Ruz, it became Ruz people or Ruzi people.
Ruz originally makes a reference to the fiery color of the sun and shares root with Rose (flower and wine color).
Hinduism: I know when US invaded Iraq, 74% Indians responded positively to a survey regarding the move (just a tad less than Azraelis : %77). I found it unbelievable and thought maybe its just a resentful knee jerk reaction to their problems with their moslems and splitting of Pakistan. Your comment (" No religion is more zionist at it's core than Hinduism ... ") makes me think maybe I am missing some thing deep tucked in.
I know hinduism is a base platform school of thought and doesn't have a particular directionality, but has given birth to a lot of branches that can be pretty different from each other. If you have a tip for me, I appreciate it.
Let me put it in a logical equation -
Judasm > zionism
::
Hinduism > caste system.
Both are religiously based supremest ideologies that are pyramidal in structure. Both result in bloodline elitism and permanent subjugation of lower classes.
Even though the structure of the caste system is well documented, I don't know the status of Hindus outside the caste system. Also, the caste system doesn't appear fixed on world domination, unlike zionism.
The hierarchy of zionism is
sabbateans < ashkanazis < sephardi < Azrahi < Falasha and other dark jews < rightious gentiles < non-zionist jews - Goyim - dark Goyim. I'm not exactly sure where non-zionist Jews fit - it may be at the bottom of the zionist bird cage.
It is interesting to note that in August 2001 a conference was held in Durban S.A that addressed zionism as racism. The three other topics discussed were the Hindu caste system, Chinese domination of Tibet, and the after effect of slavery in the western hemisphere.
This conference went badly for the zionists, even with a well publicized American boycott. While I won't say it caused the false flag atttack of 911, it's timing was very convenient for getting zionism as racism out of the public eye.
The hierarchy of zionism is
shaytan > sabbateans > ashkanazis > sephardi > Azrahi > Falasha and other dark Jews > cryptian gentiles > non-zionist Jews - Goyim - dark Goyim > anti-zionist Gentiles and Jews
i'm sure there's more too, thanks Claymore!
Where do they go in the zio pecking order? Cryptos probably come from all sub classes, but I know they are different from what they call righteous gentiles - those are the slathering zio churchians and armageddonists.
Those 'righteous' cryptian armaggedonists are not true followers of the Christ's teaching!
They're like violent, racist, psychopathic-buddhist-monks!
(SiC;)
Let me clarify that Russia is not upgrading Tartus into a full-scale naval base. Russia doesn’t (yet) have enough ships to warrant that. The base is being upgraded to serve Russian ships that visit the Mediterranean, and to allow Russian surveillance of the Middle East.
At present the Russians could not hope to oppose the 40 ships of the U.S. Sixth fleet (based in Gaeta, Italy), which controls the Mediterranean on behalf of Jews, and stands down when Jews attack vessels such as the USS Liberty. In fact, the U.S. Sixth fleet maintains facilities in Haifa. (By the way, remember when Bob Hope et. al. used to give USO shows? Today Jews from Haifa often give USO shows for the Sixth Fleet.)
(Trivia regarding Haifa: everyone knows that Herzl’s 1896 zionist manifesto Der Judenstadt, was originally titled, “Address To The Rothschilds.” It lays out the reasons why the Rothschilds should help Jews get their own state, but it does not go into great detail about where that state should be. Herzl considered South America, but eventually decided that Jews should invade Palestine, because Biblical propaganda could be intertwined with zionist propaganda. Herzl explained all this in a 1902 fiction novel titled Altneuland, or “The Old New Land,” which was more influential for Jews than was Der Judenstadt. In that novel, Herzl wanted Haifa to be the Jewish capitol. Seven years later, Jews founded the city of Ahuzat Bayit. When the Polish Jew Nahum Sokolow (secretary general of the World zionist Congress) translated Herzl’s novel Altneuland from German to Hebrew, he titled it Tel Aviv, meaning “Hill of Spring.” Herzl’s novel was so influential among Jews that the village of Ahuzat Bayit was renamed to Tel Aviv, after the novel's title.)
Jews are very interested in Tartus and Latakia, because they don’t want Syria to have an effective navy. During the 1967 war of Jewish aggression, the Syrians used a Soviet SS-N-2 Styx missile to sink a Jewish destroyer, sending its entire crew back to Satan. That was the Battle of Latakia, the first missile battle in naval history. Eventually the Jews prevailed with the help of their American slaves, but Egypt sent the Jewish destroyer Eilat back to hell. (The Eilat was named after a Jewish naval base in Haifa.)
( Trivia: In 1968, Satan called home the entire crew of the Jewish submarine Dakar, built in England. When the Jews sailed it from England to ziostan, they vanished off Crete.)
The Jews fear any navy in the Mediterranean that doesn’t belong to them or to their slaves. During their 1982 invasion of Lebanon, Jewish “Flotilla 13” commandoes (similar to U.S. Navy SEALS) conducted amphibious landings near Sidon, but during the 2006 Jewish attack on Lebanon, a Hezbollah missile killed four of Satan’s sailors, and crippled the 1,062-ton Jewish missile corvette Hanit. This ship is a Sa’ar V-class vessel built by Northrop Grumman at the Ingalls shipyard in Mississippi, where Northrop Grumman also makes U.S. Aegis destroyers. Americans gave their Jewish masters five of these corvettes in 1993 and 94, and equipped them with Tomahawk cruise missiles and Harpoon anti-ship missiles. General Electric makes the engines.
I think it may have been one of these, with its Oto Melara 76mm guns, that blasted those Palestinians on the Gaza beach (9 June 2006) in order to break the Hamas cease-fire.
And of course, Germany has been building Dolphin-class subs for the Jews since 1999. The Jews have three, and will soon have a fourth. These subs could easily strike the U.S. 5th fleet near Iran in a false flag attack.
“Turkey is and always has been the original crypto-zionist state in the middle east. There is no chance they would oppose ziostan. They are, however, always walking the tightrope of exposure to their Muslim population. That said, I see no way that a Muslim rebellion could prevail against the crypto Turkish military.”
Yes, that’s why I didn’t include Turkey in my fantasy about ganging up on the “shitty little state.” I note, however, that Indonesia and Malaysia might join in. The world banking cartel owns Indonesia’s government, but Indonesia’s citizens hate ziostan. During the Jews’ 2006 attack on Lebanon, two-dozen Indonesians traveled to Lebanon to sign up with Hezbollah. They weren’t allowed to fight, so they helped out in rear guard support activities.
Malaysia wants to be a player in Southeast Asia in terms of manufacturing and commerce. A lot of electronics shipped to the USA are made in Malaysia. However Malaysia has trouble when it encounters the world banking cartel. Therefore Malaysia’s government has made public statements against ziostan. Malaysia is ethnically linked with Filipinos, and supports workers’ rights there, against the world banking cartels.
Malaysia and Indonesia have about 65 percent of the world’s Muslims. They could help out in the war to rid the world of the “shitty little state.”
"btw. it might be a nice vignette to know where the name Russia comes from."
My understanding is that Russia came from the word Rus, which was used to designate the People from the North, or Scandinavia.
Think that the Rus handle was given to the early Viking traders.
A couple of cut and paste notes from answers.com to start with:
Rus(sia)
" The medieval Russian state, established c. 862 by Scandinavian traders and warriors led by Rurik, who founded a dynasty at Novgorod. In 882 his successor moved the capital to Kiev, the center of Kievan Russia. "
" The origin of the name is matter of considerable dispute. In general, the hypothesis of E. Kunik and Vilhelm Thomsen has met with the widest acceptance. According to them this appellation derives from the Finnic languages. The name of Sweden is in Finnish Ruotsi; in Estonian:Rootsi. This name is commonly held to be derived from Roslagen, the coastal areas of Uppland province in Sweden. "
" However, it is also suggested that the name Rus originates from the Iranian name of Volga River (by F.Knauer Moscow 1901), as well as from the Rosh of Ezekiel. Prof George Vernadsky has suggested that the name derives from the Roxolani or from the Aryan term ronsa [and Rasah] (moisture, water), the recurrence of river names like Ros in Eastern Europe. "
Historically neighbors come up with the names, rarely the natives. Chinese woke up and saw the sun rising from the behind an island in the ocean and called it zhu(sun)pon(source). When Japanese finally came out of their island, found out that's their name, but pronounced it nihon.
What makes iranian source of rus unlikely (to believe) could be related to what happened to northern iranic people. Scythians, Sarmatians, Allans, were chased out of their homes the same way palestinians are today by the same mongoloid turk transplants. East caspian sea is supposed to look like the west, but it doesn't does it.
Turkic invaders began their full scale penetrations of Central Asia from the 6th century AD, although military activities against iranic peoples in Central Asia may have begun as early as the 1st century BC. From their homelands in eastern Mongolia, Turkic warriors virtually expelled the entire Indo-European presence in Central Asia (Tocharians and Iranians) and from there spread to Eastern Europe, Persia and Anatolia. The entire history of the Turkish expansions in Central Asia has been expostulated by Prof. Richard Frye (1996).
The descendants of the North iranic people, the Ossetians, speak an old north iranian language (Avesta) and refer to themselves and their language as 'iron', a variation of iran. Ossetian historians, who acknowledge their Iranian heritage, explain their migration to Northern Georgia as a tactic of survival in the face of multitudes of Turkish, Hun and Mongol conquests that rummaged across Eurasia over the centuries.
The Avesta is used in Zoroastrian prayers, and is the ancestor of modern Ossetian. The river names, “Don”, “Donets”, “Dnieper” and “Dniester” are all of iranian origin ( P.J. Mallory)
Don/Danu = Water, River
Dnieper [Dana Apara] = the upper (old north iranic = Apara) River
Dniester [Danu Nazdaya] = the near (old north iranic = Nazdaya = Persian Nazdeek) River
The closest relative to the iranic Don/Danu is the Celtic “Danuvius”, whose modern name is known as the “Danube” in Western Europe.
A good number of slavic words share root with iranic languages; either due to the Satem branch of Indo-European languages or long comingling on the steppes. Words like Mokry (wet) and Bogh (God). Bogh is what you see in Baghdad too (god given = divine justice).
To this day Ukrainian Cossacks recall the iranian sassanian lance duel concept brought in to kirch peninsula by sarmatians with their traditional Cossack trousers called “Shelevare”, just like the Iranian “Shalvar” (trousers).
Much of the Slavic counting system is similar to modern Persian:
Slavic-iranic-English-latin=
Dva-Do-Two-Di
Chetyeri-Chahar-Four-Tetra
Pianja-Panj-Five-Penta
Shest-Shesh-Six-Hexa
Sot/Sotka-Sat/Sadh-Hundred-
Considering Azerbaijan (Guardian of Fire), Armenia (Land of the Determined), Georgia (Land of the Brave) have something to do with their southern neighbor, Rus has a good chance too!
sorry, I meant Greg above!
I guess we have to understand the rationale of this caste system by the standards of the time it was institutionalized (not modern concepts of ethics) and then look for a way of abolishing it without structural damage to the belief system.
If they retrofeed each other, then it would be impossible to cut off caste regime just like a branch.
I am still debating judaism > zionism. I think zionism is more like a 'grafted' branch to judaism, not a branch off, and certainly not a retrofeed system, i.e. neither side is feeding the other. And certainly cutting off zionism would not damage judaism at all.
It would have happened even if those who created it were buddhists. Otherwise we would need an explanation as to what took judasim so long to give us this marvelous thing.
Truth Seeker--please let them be planning something big soon, as the shitty little state is conducting an end game for the Palestinians by slowly massacring them. The ex-pm of italy said 911 was an inside job done by cia mossad etc...ron paul