Forensic evidence of controlled demolitions at the World Trade Center continues to pile up. The official conspiracy theory, of three high-rise collapses resulting from impact damage and regular office compartment fires caused by "suicidal Muslim aircraft hijackers", can only be sustained by criminal control of media, political and business leaders.
Solid evidence of molten iron and extremely high temperatures that cannot be accounted for by hydrocarbons burning in air, corroborates numerous reports of molten steel that was still running weeks after the 9/11 attacks, and confirms that the perpetrators employed aluminothermic reactions as accelerants in order to guarantee total collapse of the Twin Towers and Building 7.
Conventional compartment fires (even including jet fuel which in any case burns up within a few minutes) are only capable of maximum gas temperatures around 1,000 ºC or 1,832 ºF. And that's for 20 minutes or so at any particular point whilst local combustibles are consumed, before cooling to 500 ºC or lower. In fact, the NIST paint study concluded that "of the more than 170 areas examined on the exterior panels, only three locations had a positive result indicating that the steel may have reached temperatures in excess of 250 ºC". And a core column tested which had some surrounding fire was found to have peaked at lower than 200 ºC.
A paper by Dr. Steven E. Jones, Dr. Jeffrey Farrer, Dr. Gregory S. Jenkins, Dr. Frank Legge, James Gourley, Kevin Ryan, Daniel Farnsworth, and Dr. Crockett Grabbe in the Volume 19 - January 2008 online edition of the Journal of 9/11 Studies has details of analyses of the WTC dust. An "abundance of tiny solidified droplets roughly spherical in shape (spherules) in the WTC dust samples" was observed. Many of these spherules were found to be iron-rich, indicating that iron had melted. The melting point of iron is 1,538 °C (2,800 °F). There is also evidence of molten molybdenum (melting point 2,623 ºC = 4,753 ºF).
The Jones et al paper starts with their own analysis of dust samples, and goes on to discuss relevant previously published data. Here is an excerpt.
Abstract
In an effort to better understand the conditions that led to complete collapses of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC 7, we apply scanning-electron-microscope (SEM) and energy dispersive x-ray spectroscopy (XEDS) methods to analyze the dust generated, with an emphasis on observed micro-spheres in the WTC dust. The formation of molten spheres with high iron contents along with other species in the WTC dust required extremely high temperatures. Our results are compared with those of other laboratories. The temperatures required for the molten sphere-formation and evaporation of materials as observed in the WTC dust are significantly higher than temperatures associated with the burning of jet fuel and office materials in the WTC buildings.
1. Introduction
The events of 9/11/2001 were tragic and at the same time remarkable in their physical aspects, such as the completeness and rapidity of collapse of three skyscrapers and the large volume of fine toxic dust generated. In order to better understand these events, we obtained and examined two independent dust samples acquired very soon after 9/11/2001. The provenance of the two samples analyzed for this paper is described in the appendix. It is worth emphasizing that both of the samples were collected indoors and shortly after the 9/11/2001 event. One sample was collected on an indoor window sill on 9/14/2001, just three days after the disaster while searching for survivors in the rubble was ongoing, and in a building four blocks from ground zero. The other sample was acquired inside a fourth-floor apartment (whose upper windows broke during the WTC collapse) a few days later. We sought for samples acquired very soon after the collapses in order to drastically reduce any chance of contamination by clean-up operations (see Appendix). Furthermore, as we shall see, samples independently collected by other researchers corroborate the high-temperature indicators we observe.
2. Methods
A FEI XL30-SFEG scanning electron microscope (SEM) equipped with an EDAX Genesis X-ray energy dispersive spectrometry (XEDS) system was used to acquire XEDS spectra. A silicon detector (SiLi) with resolution better than 135 eV was used. The display resolution was set to 10 eV per channel. The operating conditions for the dust analyses were 20 keV, and 60-120 second acquisition time (livetime). The samples were analyzed at a 10 millimeter working distance and were mounted on carbon conductive tabs. Optical examination of the dust samples was conducted using a stereomicroscope (Nikon Epiphot 200) having a magnification range from 10-200X .
3. Results
We found an abundance of tiny solidified droplets roughly spherical in shape (spherules) in the WTC dust samples as shown in figure 1 (optical microscope) and figure 2 (Scanning Electron Microscope).
Figure 1. Optical micrograph of collected dust particles observed in WTC dust sample 2, showing shiny metallic and semi-transparent silicate-rich spherules. (For example, the pillshaped droplet at far right is silicate rich.)
Figure 2. An SEM image from sample 2 shows a number of spherules along with other dust particles.
The spherules found in the WTC dust were predominately iron-rich (appearing metallic) and silicates (appearing glassy under an optical microscope). We observed spherules in a wide range of diameters, from about 1 micron to 1.5 mm. Figures 3 -5 provide X-ray energy dispersive spectra for observed iron-rich spherules from the WTC dust.
Figure 3. XEDS spectrum for a typical metal-rich spherule, observed in sample 1. K and L lines for noted elements are labeled. Elemental contents in atomic percent are approximately: O (63), Si (14), Fe (11), Al (9), K (1), Mg (0.4), Na (0.4), Ni (0.3) and S (0.2); the small C peak is likely from the carbon conductive tab used to hold the sample.
Figure 4. XEDS spectrum for the largest metal-rich spherule found in sample 2. K and L lines for noted elements are labeled after the element symbol. Elemental contents in atomic percent are approximately: Fe (65), O (18), Al (11), S (4), Cu (0.6), Mn (0.6), Ni (0.4); the small C peak is likely from the carbon conductive tab used to hold the sample. The Fe-S-Al-O signature is striking, nothing like the signature of structural steel. Note also: Sulfur peak without a calcium peak, so the sulfur is not from calcium-sulfate contamination (gypsum).
Figure 5. XEDS spectrum for a rather typical iron-rich spherule found in sample 2. Elemental contents in atomic percent are approximately: O (60 ± 2), Fe (39 ±2.5), Mn (0.7), Si (0.4); the small C peak is likely from the carbon conductive tab used to hold the sample; the O/Fe ratio of approximately 1.5 suggests that Fe2O3 is present, iron (III) oxide (see endnote).
4. Discussion of relevant previously-published data
4.1. Observations of iron-rich and silicate spherules
Iron-rich spherules were also observed in studies conducted by the RJ Lee company [1] and the US Geological Survey (USGS) [2]. In particular, a USGS report on the WTC dust provides two micrographs of “iron-rich spheres” [3] and a “bulbous” or tear-drop-shaped silicate droplet [4] (see images below).
No explanation for the presence of these iron-rich and silicate spheres (which imply very high temperatures along with droplet formation) is given in the published USGS reports. The RJ Lee report also provides a micrograph and XEDS data for iron-rich spheres observed in the WTC dust; for example, their figure 21 (below, left) shows an “SEM image and EDS of spherical iron particle [1].” We likewise observe high-iron, relatively low oxygen spheres (e.g., below right and Fig. 4), which we find are unlike spheres gathered from cutting structural steel with an oxyacetylene torch.
See source (.pdf) / HTML version for the entire article.
The Jones et al paper also mentions how two of their authors obtained additional, unpublished information from the USGS after pursuing a Freedom of Information Act action. The USGS team had observed and studied a molybdenum-rich spherule. Here is another excerpt...
4.3. Molybdenum spherule in the USGS data set
Two of the authors pursued a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) action with the USGS to obtain any additional SEM/XEDS data from them which had not been previously published. The new data demonstrated, significantly, that the USGS team had observed and studied a molybdenum-rich spherule which was not mentioned in the earlier reports. A micrograph image shows a bright pill-shaped spherule labeled “20MOSPH-1.TIF” (below). The brightness of the object suggests that backscattered electron imaging was used in acquiring the image (the report notes that this technique was used in the study), and that indeed a heavier metal such as Mo is present in the oblong spherule. (We see similar shapes; see SEM image below right and Fig. 1.)
After some technical comments, the paper says:
We discern that considerable study was performed on this Mo-rich spherule, given the number of images and XEDS plots for it, yet these data were not previously released in the public USGS reports.
So, the existence of the molybdenum spherule is evidence of a previously molten state, as with the iron and aluminosilicates also mentioned in the paper. At around 2,610 to 2,623 ºC (4,753 ºF), molybdenum has one of the highest melting points of all pure elements, although the addition of other elements would lower it. Molybdenum is used to improve the strength of steels at high temperatures, and was included in some of the pressure vessel steels A 302, A 533, A542, and A514-65. (See page 17 or "43 of 86" from NIST NCSTAR 1-3A, their report on structural steel specifications.)
Molybdenum was also specified in some of the Japanese steel such as WEL-TEN 80, and is a possible extra in JIS G3114-73. Japanese steel was used to fabricate the perimeter columns and spandrels.
Yawata Iron and Steel Co. supplied most of the steel to PC&F for the perimeter columns and spandrels. In general, the exterior (or web) and side (or flange) plates of each column and the spandrels were fabricated from Japanese steel, and the interior web plate was fabricated from domestic steel. Source (same link as previous, see page 22 or "48 of 86")
In the WTC2 fire zone of floors 77-83, some 11.5% of the perimeter column steel was rated at 100 ksi yield strength. [See NIST Appendix E, June 04, Table E-4.] Yawata Iron and Steel Co. (now Nippon Steel) shipped 46,000 metric tons of WEL-TEN 60, 60R, 62, 70 and 80 to PC&F (Pacific Car and Foundry). The WEL-TEN 80 is rated at 100 ksi, so the source of the molten molybdenum may well have been 100 ksi perimeter columns.
An office compartment fire could not have melted any steel members, much less molybdenum. However, if the Jewish Mafia had installed iron(III) oxide-based thermate in the hollow perimeter columns so as to simulate a top-down collapse induced by "impact and fire damage", the thermate's ability to generate temperatures of 2,500 ºC (4,532 ºF) would have been capable of melting some molybdenum alloyed with iron and other elements.
There does appear to be an error in the Jones et al paper. The authors imply that the RJ Lee report's findings that "the presence of lead oxide on the surface of mineral wool indicates the existence of extremely high temperatures during the collapse which caused metallic lead to volatilize, oxidize, and finally condense on the surface of the mineral wool" is indicative of a controlled demolition, because "The temperature required to volatilize/boil lead is 1,740 ºC or 3,164 ºF [8]. No explanation for the origin of the indicated “extremely high temperatures during the collapse” is offered in the RJ Lee report."
But the RJ Lee report merely says that the lead "volatilized" - i.e. evaporated - prior to oxidizing and condensing. Water, for example, will evaporate at well below its boiling point, and this is also true for lead. Metallic lead evaporates at only 1,100 ºF (593 ºC), compared to its boiling point of 1,749 ºC. ["Vaporisation" can refer to evaporation or boiling.]
However, the Jones, Farrer et al paper is a useful contribution. It corroborates the countless reports of molten steel and molten metal by documenting the iron-rich spherules, as well as other data such as molten silicates and molybdenum. 1,480 ºC, for example, is regarded as a "low" melting point for silicates. Around 12 to 18 months ago, the apologists for Zionist terrorism and warfare were questioning whether the observed molten steel was really just molten aluminum, even though the source of the reports included PhD-level scientists and structural engineers. Now the shills and useful idiots have to deny forensic evidence that has been gathered and analysed by several groups working independently.
The above video is the first in a series of six of Prof. Steven E Jones speaking at a Los Angeles event, February 23, 2008. He starts by saying how he got an email from someone purporting to be an "engineer who had contacts at Homeland Security", who said that publication of Jones' paper could be "stopped", and that if he would "change research direction", there was a very good chance he would get grant money. Much of part 1 is an introduction to 9/11, mentioning matters such as the "young man" at the Pentagon who asked, "do the orders still stand?" In the second half of Part 3, Jones debunks straw man hypotheses such as "no planes" and "nuclear bombs".
By the second half of part 4 he is telling about the previously molten spheres from the dust samples, how John Parulis caught some dust from a thermite reaction that was found to contain similar spheres, how a WTC dust sample collected 20 minutes after the second collapse showed the same spheres (refuting the reality deniers' claim that the spheres were formed by oxyacetylene torches in the clean-up), and the similarity of the composition to commercial thermite. See here or here for the remainder. The latter also has some videos of Richard Gage and Cynthia McKinney speaking at the Feb 23 event. See here for a report by Dr Jones on the Feb 23 event.
There are some audio files here of Richard Gage on mainstream radio, and the hosts are not supporters of the official conspiracy theory. Indeed, Peter B Collins says explicitly [6:17] that he is "persuaded by" the evidence for controlled demolition.
The above 18-second video shows the WTC "meteorite", described as molten steel, concrete and other things, fused together by the heat.
This video is 82 minutes, but is a comprehensive presentation by physicist Steven Jones at the 9/11 Symposium in West Hartford CT on 3rd November 2007. Audio quality is very good.
Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, as of 24th March 2008, have 300 architectural and engineering professionals and 1165 other supporters including A/E students who have signed their petition demanding of Congress a truly independent investigation. The Scholars for 9/11 Truth & Justice have plenty of members. And this is after the shills and useful fools have broken away to pursue their "beam weapons" and other half-baked notions.
9/11 is even being discussed in detail at Wikipedia. Much of the comments here are opposed to the government account.
Jim Hoffman's 9-11 Research site has a good analysis of the merits of various demolition theories. The thermobaric devices and distributed explosives methods could have been employed together with thermate (thermite with sulfur added). However, the serious investigator may safely discount the exotic and untenable theories.
But isn't it interesting that we have this bizarre 'coincidence' that Jews demolished the WTC, Jews comprise a fraction of one percent of the world population, and yet there are many Jews involved in the 9/11 investigation who 'accidentally' conclude that it was the "US government" or some other group who attacked the WTC? Similarly, whenever Jews investigate the WTC demolition and have their 'work' hosted at sites that are owned and edited by Jews, they 'accidentally' plump for the wrong hypothesis, and then stubbornly refuse to change to a hypothesis that is in accordance with the evidence.
Some concentrate on whodunit, others on how they did it. I am interested in both. But it's great to see that Dr Jones and his associates have chosen to be apolitical, concentrating on forensic evidence of the crime, so the perpetrators and shills cannot easily play the "anti-semitism" card.
There is a prima facie case for a criminal investigation. In the event that Arabs demolished a UN building with thermite to create the illusion that Israel had fired on it, and Israel held forensic proof of this hypothetical controlled demolition, the media would be shouting the news from the rooftops.
The government's continuing promotion of the "Arab hijackers" myth is proof enough of their complicity, at best, as an accessory to mass murder. Given that the Jewish Mafia has grown to be more powerful than governments, the fingerprints of Israel, the Mossad and Zionists are all over the WTC demolitions, and the perpetrators require control of the mainstream media in order to maintain their deceptions, whodunit is a foregone conclusion.
Unless and until Jews stop covering for the crimes of the Jewish Mafia, Zionism will be synonymous with criminality, and Judaism will be synonymous with mental disease.
See: http://www.takeourworldback.com/moltenmolybdenum.htm for the full page-width version of this.
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Excellent work, Poseidon.
Is this one word on Jones and his thermate ideas....
MASS
First you take D.C. Then you take New York
Over the last few months there has been encouraging news in 9/11 truth, and I wanted to compile a few details. If the terrorists thought people would just forget about it, they thought wrong. As for the "nuclear bombs" theses, I just have one word to say:
RADIOACTIVITY
With Mr Jones and all the things he Omits.
First: To cut steel one uses C4/copper shape charges.
Second:Fine powdered thermate is a poor explosive compared to C4.
Third: Why is there signs of thermate in limited amounts yet the fires at ground zero burned for over 8 some say as long a 14 weeks duration?
Forth: Why no treatment of what this fire starting substance was used for at that level of the tower that had a visible stream of thermate dripping out?
Fifth: Why 0% information on the 600-800 ton Tuned Mas Damper system and it's OBVIOUS implications in this event be it filled with lead,steel or the most heavy element procured for free form the energy department Uranium 238.
Thermate is used to melt armor in place or to start fires for a sustained period i think the 9/11 thermate was used to light off this huge mass of U-238 JUST because it will burn far longer than Thermate would and do FAR more damage to the evidence of the day and the general life around GZ
Fifth: Why does Mr Jones always handle his precious 9/11 sample like it's radioactive using a gloved hand EVERY time he shows it?
Sixth: Mr Jones SHOULD know that the mass required to sustain the fires is not going to come from thermate without Serious tonnages of Thermate being introduced to the rubble pile over the weeks that it burned forget the ocean of H2O the fire dudes pumped into the area.
Seventh: How come Mr Jones does not persue the signs of radioativity from the firemen's PAM system on that day? Or Why was the system described as a locater system when it is to alert the user of an radiation risk?
Now ask your self this: Are the cancer levels of N.Y. State normal? Or this: Is there a money reason that the Authority that should know can not stand up an yell foul?
I am a farmer with 4 horses a grade 10 and a huge pile of info showing me that some group of ELITE is thinking up and doing ever new programs to kill SUBSTANTIVE parts of the planets population using Uranium. Why? Who cares lets just get it stopped as SOON a we all can.
Your life is in the vice. And the poisoners are cranking on the lever EVERY day whilst you sleep.
Mr Jones is no doubt doing some things but is he doing all that he Should be given his education level?
Sorry but every time i watch a video of his i come away thinking 'i was just 'Gatekeeped' and don't get me wrong I have them all right here to see over and over again. Same Q: all the time
First you take D.C. Then you take New York
Tuned mass dampers are used in every sky scraper to help balance and offset the considerable effects of wind on such giant structures. They control the sway in the building.
To refer to one of Mashers comments on the thread where all this is discussed:
Masher's theories need to be examined very seriously. I think he is on to something here.
I am not some kook nor am i going to say i KNOW for sure But All i can do with my internet is confirm everything i talk about in the 1002 post liked at the bottom of my posts
First you take D.C. Then you take New York
I wish i was wrong about these TMD units BUT for 3 years all i have been able to do is confirm further the idea. I did see this system on a 16 MM film at school and can tell you ALL it was huge. I have been looking at ANY plausable explationn for those fires and the Math allways comes out needing Many hundreds of tons of fuel ADDED to the site to work out even close.
But if you use U-238 then just the percentage of unknown building weight is the error i see. Not even close is the next level down in fuel sources to model to enable a 8-14 week long sustained burn Hot enough to melt Tons of steel into huge pools under those towers.
Looking at the K9 units lost i see right through the bullshit the EPA spews fourth and once everyone living in the N.Y. area stars showing serious effects of rad contamination will any thing happen.
So please try to understand that U-238 contamination is not that easily test for or even be detected by regular gear a FD may have. I have seen Movie footage of a PAM-1R personal area monitor in alert mode directly after the first collapse on a FireFighter and i say that Tons of U-238 was a major evidence destroyer.
Please click the link above READ the post and comments then Go out and find those WTC blueprints so we can see Exactly how much damage has been done and what needs to be done to clean up. I and others NEED those drawings BADLY. Get EM on the net Use WIKILEAKS whatever it takes DO IT.
A TMD and what it looks like
www.motioneering.ca/Public/TrumpTowerAnimation.aspx
The unit in the WTC was of a lesser technical complexity and was a passive damper but the idea is just the same as here in trump tower type. This one is far more complex and is active meaning it is powered to damp and counter sway better.
Any Tall steel frame building is going to need the help of one of these units. Why is the WTC units so surrounded with fog? They were there. But info on them is sure short. You would think That ANY investigation into a cascade collapse involveing an 800 ton unit of ANY type and it not being mentioned at all is just casting doubt onto that investigation and it's conclusions.
First you take D.C. Then you take New York
This thread seems to have a issue already. Anyone see how Quickly this one buried it's self? I did.
So just so as the MAN knows "Masher1 is on to your killing spree and I intend to stop it"
My world is going to END your world TRUST me.
And thinks Poseidon for gathering this compile of Jones videos so as everyone can see just how hard he works to HIDE the fuel source and to obscure the actual damages done.
If you happen to think that Jones is doing all he can to help then you need to look very closely at just what he does not say and should be saying.
Anyone at Jones's level that OMITS that very important component {the TMD} is playing you for a fool. ANYONE. Now do a list: How many official persons that should know omit the TMD and all of it's ramifications??? I have a list. And boy o boy if this list is any measure YOU all need to do this soon.
Make a list.. Think harder about the paths you have been lead down by these official dis info artists. Then Share your results with your buddies.
First you take D.C. Then you take New York
The TMD was manufactured at the time the whole building went up. So any claims of a building being pre-engineered to implode on short notice ALL get a boost from this device and it's presence at the time the place was erected. The TMD is a hard to cover up because it is so large and it's internal element is going to be VERY obvious on a chart of weight Vs Cubic feet SO omitting it is the only option. The Blueprints sow it home on the PRE implosion front. Keeping those drawing hidden is KEY to B-Sing the WHOLE city into inaction. If the drawings allow US to calculate the TMD requirements then thee will also show us if they use Very expensive LEAD (PB) or the Free and far heavier Uranium 238. The dudes that worked those spaces i bet to a man/woman ALL died that day. The blueprint's will never officially be released BUT there are a number of other ways to ESTIMATE with enough accuracy to call it either way. I myself called it on the GREED card some time ago in the 1002 post and all i have been able to do is confirm my fears for New York state. Now i don't doubt that Thermate was used because we all saw the video Some even went to the lengths to match the color temps to confirm it.. Thermate in say a 4" layer on the floor of the TMD room ON FIRE then being flooded by U-238 granules flowing out of the C4 shape charges cast into the concrete splitting up the TMD case and pre firing the U-238 up for ti's trip down into the sub basement all held mostly in the TMD room until crashing into the void of the parking and train tunnels spilling out All on fire to BURN as much steel and Kill as many as they missed zapping with the Three Mile Island 'Event'.
This TMD is so SMOKING GUN the fact that there was three of them and the mess they caused is so huge that looking or dealing with the ramifications of all this low level radiation fallout throughout the the General N.Y. area will and is having on the LIFE living on that land is too harsh to deal with....
Well New York time to see the liars for WHO they really are. Us farm boys should not have to be telling you all this stuff THAT is for sure but here we are.
First you take D.C. Then you take New York
Asking if there is any other little surprises in the form of burning U-238 TMD units waiting for us to discover is also going to cause you some trouble BUT it needs doing. I was not too impressed with that "Though Train Crash/FeedingFrenzyKillFest" investigation idea but some NY resident is going to need this information in great detail if i am right
Think:They got the idea from the WTC build and did some deals to make even more money...
And tall buildings.
First you take D.C. Then you take New York
OK So since 1999 the egg heads have known that Pollen from GM crops is causeing bees to die.
1999
So nine years after 390+ tons of special nanno sized particles of ceramic UO2 were added to the ecosystem they get the MSG the SPAECIAL GM pollen captures this particle of UO2 from the air and RADS out the Bee and it's digestive tract JUST like a human containation might manifest it's self with RAD posioning. But these EGGHEAD losers all can't see the problem clearly and the source of the problems with the Bees and there death? Are thaey all Stupid? All on the TAKE??
F them I am telling you. DU is a part of the ecosystem and fix is nedded not nore BULLSHIT from the EGGHEADS.
First you take D.C. Then you take New York
Debt slavery they will also get the MSG. The masters are done with you.
Once the slaves revolt over there new hazard the Ends of the Earth will not hide the poisoner.
Think:Battlefield Earth and Travolta's Charters predicament at the end. Alliant tech systems i am talking to you scum! Every last bullet making missile twister one of you! I think every one of you will get to play for real. What side you play for is up for grabs But this game is going to get under way SOON boys and girls. ;)
First you take D.C. Then you take New York
So lets see then..
My first suspect: The John Hancock Building at 244m high
Sporting TWO 300 ton dampers working a 0.14 Hz sway.
Then i have : City Corp Center an 270m high shack sporting a 370 ton damper working a 0.16 Hz sway
And : Sydney tower rising to 305m with a 220 ton pendulum.
Now U-238 or not is a matter for debate but those are but a few of the very large counterweights in service.
I say ALL usages of this Element large or small need ample warnings of all the dangers including loss to fire or intentional/accidental damage.
letting even one pile of this crap into a city SHOULD be a crime forget using it in a place that MAY catch fire.
First you take D.C. Then you take New York
Can be phoned into me.
403.863.1607
My WUFYS voice line.
Any info on WTC blue prints TMD's or any other help you may be able to provide.
do you have a unused mass spectrometer? Call me.
First you take D.C. Then you take New York
That this blog is at the bottom of some NSA file cabinet and not one person will ever see this info on TMD's.
But it's already far TOO late to stop my works.
I got through long before your army of assholes move into our place.
WE notice EVERYTHING.
And God teaches us all we need to fight you.
Blocks and walls will not help you further your evil plan.
We already killed you dead you just have not realized the truth of my words.
Your power is gone your control slipping away.
And it looks SOOO good on you all.
Later Mr NSA fag.
First you take D.C. Then you take New York
Masher posts about a rather unconventional thesis which holds that "uranium tuned mass dampers" were used to demolish the WTC...
Or thermite or thermate. See this patent:
From a tactical standpoint, high heat flux materials such as thermite have the greater advantage of silence; in contrast, high explosives would, without fail, arouse attention in the vicinity of the target area. From an operational and logistic standpoint, a device that is smaller and lighter is a must to assist in lightening the load carried by the soldier and to reduce the number of resupply missions.
The methods and apparatus of this invention are useful in a variety of sabotage or other applications including, but not limited to, the destruction of metallic targets by cutting through the casing steel (up to 1 inch thick with 0.75 pound payload) and fusing the components contained therein, for example, gears, pistons, or shafts with a stream of molten iron at 4500° F. It has unlimited uses for attacking and destroying transformers, generators, electric motors, engine blocks, gun barrels, breech blocks, and mines. Storage tanks or drums can be cut through, causing the contents to flow out. If the liquid is flammable a fire and deflagration will result.
But 9/11 was not about "cutting" steel. The object was to demolish three steel-framed high-rises, and to make it appear as if "fires" caused the collapses by heating the steel. It was not even necessary to melt the steel. Heating it to 800 - 1000 C would do the trick. And that's especially important with the perimeter columns. If the molten iron melts its way through prematurely and gets caught on camera, the shills end up having to publish nonsense about "molten aluminum" that was the wrong color, or "exploding oxygen tanks" that didn't explode until nearly an hour after impact.
So you would put thermate (thermite plus sulfur to further weaken the steel) into the hollow perimeter columns at the impact zone, omitting the side where most columns were taken out by a plane. It is also installed in the strongest core columns, at basement level. If the plane gets shot down - e.g. UA93 and WTC7 - don't trigger the perimeter column thermate, only that within the core columns. The top-down collapse is only required if the building is hit by a plane. And if all the planes get shot down, you would have to say that "al Qaeda" got inside and placed the "bombs".
Explosives can be used (placed on floors below the impact zone to avoid being triggered by the impact or fires) if deemed necessary. But again, the aim is to make it look like "fire-induced" collapses. If the explosives eject beams with too much lateral force, that isn't going to look good.
There is evidence of thermate in some dust samples, and in heavily sulfidated steel members that resembled Swiss cheese. However, the amount of thermate employed in this multi-hundred-billion dollar false flag of the century was anything but limited.
The duration of the 'fires' is determined by the dimensions of the pools of molten metal and the thermal diffusivity of the surrounding compressed debris pile. I calculated a time to cool from 2,500 C to 1,500 C and to solidify as almost 7 weeks for a one meter deep pool. See http://www.takeourworldback.com/wtcdemolition.htm for more details. Even when cherry-red hot, the "meteorite" would still ignite combustibles and create plenty of steam from water.
The pool of molten iron and structural steel for a single basement core column would comprise about 6 tonnes of molten iron and 20 tonnes of molten structural steel. Such a cuboid pool of volume (26/7) = 3.714 m^3 could have dimensions of 1 meter deep by 1.927 by 1.927 meters. The mean spacing between core columns was only about 18 feet or 5.5 meters, and if a pool had merged from four adjacent basement core columns for example, the horizontal dimensions can each be doubled to 3.854 meters. In this case, horizontal heat losses in the center are small in relation to losses in the vertical plane.
The products of a thermite reaction - molten iron pouring out, and aluminum oxide white smoke, were observed. The thermate was clearly used to weaken the perimeter columns at the targeted impact level.
This brings us to a major problem with the WTC TMD theory. It didn't have one! Some buildings do, like the Tapei 101 (730 tons). The WTC employed a different system. From a discussion here: "The towers didn't use tuned mass dampers. They employed many small viscoelastic (rubbery) dampers that connected the lower chords of the floor trusses to the exterior columns, to act as shock absorbers. Worked well."
In this case, that poster was telling the truth. NIST's Interim Report on Contemporaneous Structural Steel Specifications [page E-11] has a diagram of the floor trusses, showing how, as it states, "the bottom chord of each pair of trusses was attached to perimeter spandrels with visco-elastic dampers".
According to Masher's hypothesis, each Tower had a "tuned mass damper" consisting of 600 - 800 tons of uranium-238. If we include WTC7, that's equivalent to the USA's entire uranium production for 2002 and 2003. We know that each Tower weighed about 500,000 tons. That oft-quoted figure is too high, since it estimates the live load as nearly 100% of the design maximum. NIST's estimated gravity loads are more realistic.
Nevertheless, taking the mass of a Tower as high as 500,000 tons, a hypothetical "700-ton uranium tuned mass damper" would still be as much as 0.14% of the total mass, or 1,400 parts per million (ppm).
However, consider the USGS analysis of the WTC dust. It found that the proportion of uranium was 3.29 ppm (mean), 7.57 ppm (max), and 1.96 ppm (min). This compares with uranium's natural abundance in the Eath's crust of 2 to 4 ppm. In fact, the concentration of uranium in farmland soil is up to 15 ppm due to use of phosphate fertilizers. So farmland has more uranium than New York!
The USGS data corroborates what everyone already knew: The WTC didn't have any "uranium tuned mass dampers".
To avoid contamination.
Dr Jones knows that the scientific method is about formulating your hypothesis to fit the facts. Serious tonnages of thermate were introduced into the WTC in the months leading up to 9/11, under guise of "fireproofing upgrades", to ensure total collapse and give the perps their "new Pearl Harbor". After the collapses, the thermate continued to react for some time in the debris pile. Temperatures generated and heat produced and stored in the debris pile were of such magnitude that it took weeks for all the molten iron and steel to solidify.
As far as I know, there has not been any anomalous radiation at GZ, nor any reason to suspect any. Do you have any references?
As I showed here, as of November 2006, the leukemia rate amongst the "pile" recovery workers was marginally less than for the U.S. population at large.
The data here shows N.Y. State vs. national rates, as of 2004. If you click on the male and female tab and total up each set of ten cancers, you get 506.5 / 487 which is 4% high for New York. (The corresponding figures on the male tab page are under 2% high.) It's hardly evidence of some devilish plot to poison people with uranium. And why would the Zionists target New Yorkers, unless Jews were immune?
Much of the Zionists' uranium is being used to kill and maim the Iraqi and Afghan people. The Zionists get the oil and the opium, and others pay the price.
The "WTC TMD" hypothesis assumes that, somehow, this hypothetical device generated a lot of heat after being triggered, e.g. by thermite, and that somehow brought down the WTC buildings. That doesn't explain how the "TMD" transmitted heat to enough of the steel members to demolish the building. For a semi-infinite steel bar, with one end "instantly" heated to some temperature, the point at which the steel has experienced half of the temperature increase after 102 minutes - the WTC1 collapse time - is only about 8.7 inches from the hot end.
Consider the decay heat rate of uranium-238, which is only 0.1 watts / tonne. So 700 metric tonnes only produces 70 watts of power. It is self-evident that a dim light bulb is not going to be able to melt iron and steel, or keep tons of it molten for weeks.
The idea that a 700-ton ball of uranium could be "set off" by thermite, fall to the ground and smash, and then maintain a precisely controlled fission chain reaction for weeks is strictly for the sci-fi buff.
As for the theory that the uranium would "burn" underground, where would it obtain its oxygen? Thermite contains its own oxygen supply. And the aluminum is already finely divided so as to react with the iron oxide. When the Towers collapsed, the hypothetical "uranium TMD" would fragment into relatively large pieces, and would be scattered amongst the debris pile, much of it not in thermal contact with the iron oxide. As a scheme to poison New Yorkers, it is very hit and miss.
Thanks to Masher for raising the subject of the "uranium tuned mass damper WTC demolition". It was worth comparing the quality of this hypothesis against those advanced by Dr Jones and his associates.
When you're trying to indict the most powerful criminals in the world, it is necessary to have hard facts. Anecdotal evidence such as someone remembering he once saw a TV program 40 years ago is of little use, and can do more harm than good. Conspiracy theories such as "WTC had concrete core columns", "Paul McCartney was killed and replaced", "Israeli firm tallied the Iowa caucas", etc, just ain't gonna cut it. Generally, you find that such 'theories' originate with those who are employed by the crime network.
Viseoelastic spacers are used in conjunction with a Tuned Mass Damper. They are all part of the "shock absorber" system for a skyscraper.
I believe that the WTC had a double TMD system. If those counterweights were depleted uranium, they could have been set alight by thermite.
The fact that the blueprints for the WTC are sealed from investigation means this question is open, and I'm not talking about the disinfo release blueprints that showed up after the TMD question got raised.
Please don't get me wrong in that last post. I don't have any answers. I only know that something burned very hot for a very long time and there are good indications of radioactivity. Beyond that, I'm open for exploring all hypothesis. The only thing for sure is that another independent investigation with subpoena power is more than justified.
The Viscoelastic elements are to damp earthquake forces that is all. Rubber elements to prevent direct connection between the tower steel and the bedrock. The Viscoelastic rubber is there to prevent the bottoms of the core steel from snapping or shattering in an horizontal earth motion event.
The TMD is the only means of controlling wind forces causing sway. The TMD is floated or suspended and is damped by plain ol shock absorbers. All this Viscoelastic element talk is just a bunch of smoke.
The Viscoelastic element. have NOTHING AT ALL to do with sway mitigation. there a mechanical 'FUSE' to prevent horizontal earth motion from compromising the core steel with excessive forces.
First you take D.C. Then you take New York
Let's get the MSG on U-238
Uranium 238 Burns BETTER than Thermate.
In fact once the U-238 is started burning it is like Super Thermate AND BURNS FOR A FAR LONGER DURATION. Think more mass more burn time.
Pyroforic is a slight mis description but it does work.
Now i did not claim the U-238 was for any demolition uses i claim they used it to destroy evidence and to generally do folks in.
Try ANY model you can think up to explain this 8-14 week contained crucible fire. Any model you can think up and you will have to admit a SERIOUS fuel shortage unless you use U-238 in at least 600 ton per tower plus what ever was used in WTC 7 to do that one.
I Don't even have a Close contender to play against. It is just hard to maintain a fire for that long without Tons and Tons of fuel being ADDED to the basements over the burn. That DID NOT happen.
So What fuel sustained this fire?
Pixie dust?
Angel Farts??
First you take D.C. Then you take New York
Once heated beyond 186 degrees it BURNS like magnesium,Thermite or Thermate at well over 5400 degrees (i think it is 6850 deg free burning)
And this is NOT Sci-Fi stuff either.
So once the Thermate touches it off it does its own thing just like thermate would but for far longer and with out the telltale sulfur byproducts.
With out looking for the UO2 it went unnoticed almost 100% by everyone.
The PAM/1R i saw post collapse on a fireman was showing and beeping RAD alert. False alarm from Americium smoke detectors?? Kinda small percentages to cause the PAM to go off. So what caused the RAD alert?
i have been trying to find ANY ways to disprove my theory for some time now and i just can't do it.
Perhaps you can. Who knows. I do know this
This issue IS going to tear the USA a new one if i am even remotely on to something with all this.
In fact without careful color temperature analysis U-238 and thermate appear somewhat similar whilst on fire.
This needing to heat the stuff to light it off is the reason for the Space shots that caused the Freaky SPIRE videos.
A set of videos shot from many angles. All very hard to explain.
First you take D.C. Then you take New York
Where is the evidence of radioactivity? I haven't seen anything compelling. I've seen evidence of elevated tritium levels, but that's it, and that can be accounted for. Do you have a link or two for this Claymore?
As Poseidon said above, U-238 couldn't burn for seven weeks underneath circa 500,000 tons of rubble without an oxygen supply. Thermate could, because it draws its oxygen from iron oxide as it reacts with aluminium. So unless U-238 can burn in a sealed, oxygen-free environment, the molten steel has to be put down to thermite/thermate.
IT'S 7 YEARS LATER AND YOU GUYS ARE STILL BULSHITTING ABOUT DETAILS???????????????
THEY DEMOLISHED IT.
Now i know you are not trying to insult me.
I have no ego.
You seem to thing goading us into not discussing the TMD issue is going to work.
Think one more time a tad left of your last thought GR.
Nice chimp impression though (;
First you take D.C. Then you take New York
In the above patent, the TMD apparatus includes a spring and a viscoelastic element that connects the secondary mass to the building. If the building doesn't have a TMD, as was the case with the WTC, a different system is employed.
See this description of four different types of passive structural control systems:
Although there are numerous types of passive control systems, four main systems are most popular: tuned mass damper (TMD) and tuned liquid damper (TLD), yielding metal dampers, base isolation, and viscoelastic and fluid viscous dampers.
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The WTC used the viscoelastic damper system. Each floor had about 84 points where a double truss was connected to the perimeter, and the lower chord connection was by way of a viscoelastic damper. The four mechanical floors, and floors 43 and 77 above them, used wide flange beams (and normal-weight concrete) throughout, so probably had a different number of viscoelastic dampers. But 84 times 110 floors above ground makes nearly 10,000 viscoelastic dampers. That number is confirmed by FEMA here:
At approximately 10,000 locations in each building, viscoelastic dampers extended between the lower chords of the trusses and gusset plates mounted on the exterior columns beneath the stiffened seats (Detail A in Figure 2-6). These dampers were the first application of this technology in a high-rise building, and were provided to reduce occupant perception of wind-induced building motion.
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This hypothesis requires that just about everyone who knows about buildings is wrong, FEMA were sufficiently competent and organized to start a cover-up about "uranium tuned mass dampers" almost from the word go, and of the thousands and thousands of people who ever worked in the WTC, not one of them spotted a massive sphere of diameter 13.5 feet if uranium or 18.2 feet if steel.
From a description of the Tapei 101 TMD:
The remedy for these potential seismic and atmospheric assaults is this 730-ton tuned mass damper (TMD).
Source
Although TMDs do not react quickly to sudden shocks, I don't see any evidence that TMDs are solely to counteract wind, and viscoelastic dampers are merely to deal with earthquakes. TMDs are more suited to concrete structures, and viscoelastic dampers are more suited to steel-framed or reinforced concrete buildings.
Under anaerobic conditions such as thirty feet underground in a debris pile, thermate would burn better than uranium. Even if all the uranium burned at just the required rate to last for ten weeks, the total power output for this maximum estimate would be down to about 600 kW, more than 1,000 times lower than maximum estimates for the WTC fires.
The long-lasting heat had little to do with long-lasting combustion. It mostly derived from the amount of heat that had already been released by the fires and from thermate reactions at or shortly after the collapses, heat which was locked in by the insulating properties of surrounding debris.
But if excess radioactivity was detected and people started dying off rapidly, wouldn't that be a bizarre way of destroying evidence? We also have to assume that a conspiracy to kill people in 2001 was conceived back in the 1960s, and the crooks came up with the idea of using uranium tuned mass dampers. In any case, the synergistic mix of asbestos and other toxins would kill some and make many more ill; uranium is only weakly radioactive.
It was far better for the criminals just to use thermate, and have the shills promote nonsense about "acid rain", "melted planes", "rusted steel", and "paint chips". If they want to kill people, there are other methods like giving them dodgy drugs or putting something in the water. Or they could just drop off radioactive material in the streets - it's a lot easier and much more effective than the "uranium TMD" conspiracy.
GR's comments often remind me of the old saying, 'If you must be dull, at least have the good sense to be brief'. In his case, we could justifiably substitute the word 'dull' with 'inane' or 'asinine', but in any case, we can all be grateful for his brevity, and thankful that on this particular occasion, he didn't use two thousand different colors or call any of us "bay_bee".
That the man that did this structure from the git go had this event in mind.
From the powdered EVERYTHING to the Spire. All will be on the plate during this investigation. I have started the ball with seeing this TMD issue for the event it was.
Say any thing you can or will about this visco stuff i don't care.
I am saying this unit worked two purposes the one 'Get the element into place purpose' was to supply THE KEY NEDDED PART to make this pair of towers work in the wind. All viscoelastic elements are to reduce DIRECT steel on steel connection where forces can over stress and fail these joints. Limited and controlled FLEXIBILITY.
Here is a great way to fathom the viscoelastic parts of this system.. These part act just like the engine mount in your car. Used to allow a structure to move in limited ways. Way that allow the engine to move but it is still attached to the car. These elements are used to add flex in ways and limited movement in others. This is all to enhance the TMD's effectiveness over more frequency range in 2 dimensions than just TMD on rigid structure alone.
In the Sway control realm the only active part of the anti-sway system is the TMD. Every thing else is TUNING for effect that active mass.
Now the second and more important job of this system was to destroy the remainder of the DEMO job done to the SERIOUS steel in those basements. Few have any idea of the steel in this place under WTC 1&2. This steel is with out treatment GOING to show obvious shape charge work on base steel parts. This evidence had to be destroyed. I mean how many times have we all seen a controlled demo job? How many 2 or 3 month fires accompanied ANY of them ever done?
Chernobyl and the reactor building are perfect examples of what i am talking about. First the WHOLE fuel content of the reactor blew through the bottom of the reactor vessel and 'FLOWED' burning all through and into the several floors
below the reactor unit. This uranium solidified with a heroic series of helicopter flights that killed the men flying the missions to drop reaction stopping chemicals into the blown open reactor. This resulting in a formation known as the "Elephants Foot" in the lowest part of this place were the remains. Now the tonnage of graphite and the other substance they used (Not sure the element they used as a primary reaction stopper) was staggering. None of this intervention happened to the WTC fires so they continued to burn until the fuel was exhausted.
Or think this way
"China syndrome"
Look it up.
Now just because this game was run on a very long time line does not alter the FACTS of this event.
Once this investigation gets it's giddy up Masher1's vision of this event and all these anomaly's come under the gaze of the EDUCATED interested parties i thing with some security that i have presented a fair grip of the cause of the 3 month fire at GZ with all of the implications that are living life in the Big Apple area.
And If this event DID go down as i have laid out the lack of a response to the radiological event is going to piss of a whole lot of New York state residents....
A WHOLE lot of em..
I guess this is the reason to goad me Eh. Keep me 'ENGAGED' here Eh?
Did you boys ever think YOU were being played?
You see my Views have roots. My thinking is perhaps flawed in some ways but mark my words YOU folks desperate to maintain denial of the messes humanity is aswim following Greed are doomed to fail completely.
This Whole TMD thing is all in the open BECAUSE of Greed.
And the controls surrounding this venue are not doing ANYTHING to harm the ideas we post here. My coming to this place and discussing the views i have will not be interfered with at all.
God sees to everything.
Use your own brain to asses the WHOLE 1002 node,does the idea scare you so much you would ignore compounding layers of evidence showing you the disaster that befell New York City on and after Sept. 11 2001?
If so the Other disaster coming will be of your own making in your own ignorance of your place in this world.
Denial is deadly at this point. How deadly is just a matter of time.
Exposure to UO2 in the quantities from GZ and to the fallout and dust in NOT going to kill you right off. No it will work on you over time cause you to fail over a long time frame from many non specific (The Doc will say) symptoms whilst you get boned for all your remaining cash to feel some relief from the cancer eating you alive.
The Search and Rescue dogs are a smoking gun.
Try and deny this.
First you take D.C. Then you take New York
I talked to some former Air Force guys tonight and learned something - All aircraft, commercial or military, carry liquid oxygen and liquid nitrogen for the breathing systems. These guys told me that there were at least 12 two lb. canisters of liquid oxygen on each of those flights and the canisters are extremely tough - titanium. The never explode on impact, but they do explode violently at around 1900 F. I don't know what this means, but it should go in the equations.
Given that the TMDs that form the basis of your argument contain depleted uranium, which is primarily composed of U238, an isotope that has a 4.5 billion year half-life, the thermal meltdown conditions that would bring about the (hypothetical) China Syndrome would be extremely unlikely to occur. The U235 that would be required to bring about such an uncontrollable runaway thermal reaction is not present in anywhere near sufficient quantities.
How much difference does it make HOW THEY KILLED US?
You KNOW WHO DID IT.
Yah, the sword that smites us weight 33 stones and is sharper than a motherfucker bay_bee.
I'm not denying that there are many details about the Crime of the Century to learn, but it is exactly the same as discussing what kind of bombs were used to kill, after the fact.
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The who and the why are far more important than the how. While the technicalities are no doubt of interest, and there are many questions that have remained unanswered, there is little question about who has masterminded and perpetrated this attrocity and why they did so. Bringing these two key aspects of 9/11 to the forefront of public attention and keeping them there is far more important than any insight as to the minutiae of the methods used.
The truth is what is important. That means the who, the why and the how. The fact of the matter is that if there is to be 9/11 justice, there will have to be trials to prosecute the guilty, and in those trials the how will be crucial. Without the how, there will be no prosecution of the who. How could there be?
There is solid evidence of the use of thermate in the WTC attacks. The evidence is strong enough to hold up in a court of law.
This comment
is basically tantamount to saying 'shut up'. To 'shut up', I usually say 'fuck you'. This is a discussion forum. It's like being approached in a public toilet by someone who demands that you stop pissing in that urinal.
I'm more interested in the who and the why - that's my interest area, and it's what I write about. But I'm interested in the how, and so will be the judges if and when this cime is prosecuted in a court of law. Did the towers come down because of jet fuel and fire, or not? That's how important the how is.
bringing down the towers in New York on 9.11.01. We don't know how you did it, but it looks pretty fishy to us. How do you plead?"
"Erm..."
so, we'll hold another mock trial?
perhaps we'll use all our circumstancial evidence to support the claims? i wish it were otherwise, but
Revolution comes before the D.C. Trials.
i agree with your assessment, CoZ; i'm merely stating the fact that our heads are in a rabbi'ts sheol.
Nobody in their right mind would say that how 9/11 was carried out has no importance. It does. It matters. However, there is sufficient evidence to suggest that the towers did not fall due to a kerosene-fueled fire ignited after aircraft impact. There is sufficient evidence for anyone with their eyes open to know it was an inside/outside job.
I just tend to be wary of those who start noisy, protracted and often viciously divisive discussions on whether the towers were brought down by particle beams, mini-nukes, pixie dust, or whatever the offbeat theory of the day happens to be. The protagonists in these long, drawn-out debates liberally and often with little reason fire out accusations of 'shill' and 'scammer' at those who disagree with them. I just wonder how such divisiveness serves the ultimate goal of bringing the perpetrators of 9/11 to justice.
Funny beyond my sight.
No i am the first to ask about the U-238 TMD parts of the towers. Parts i have seen. Parts official yammering heads fail to mention even in the face of there ramifications in a event like 9/11 regardless of the internal element inside. The 600-800+ ton TMD is a mathematical requirement if HUMANS are going to work in this place.
Now all this was dealt with in 1002.
About 2 weeks in if the trips to computer man to replace damaged drives and other gear i lost over this issue are recalled properly. Anyhoo... The point is it is too late. The person i had to wake up was awakened and the MOCK TRIAL Masher1 is partly responsible for starting is going to make the McCarthy masturbation sessions look like PGA golf for the retarded after THEY find the will to cancel the POISON sowers and all there buds.
And sorry for the mess i am causing but this game is SERIOUS and i am going to win.
To our fellow humans making and using this element...
Fuck You Very Much. You are soooooo Done and don't even fathom the mess you are in.
Again to say it so as to not be mis understood...
THESE MEN AND WOMEN plan to KILL 85%-90% of the life on this planet. And they have been at it for over 100 fucking years!
Wake up from your slumber. God woke Me about this TMD thing and well at this point CONFIRMED is the red lettering in bold over this report on my desk.
Wanna go any further i will entertain ANY plausible explanations on my WUFYS voice line at 403 863 1607 for a fire running perhaps as long as 14 weeks under that pile.
I am pretty sure no one will call. The NSA is intercepting all my US calls.
First you take D.C. Then you take New York
The mess is not limited to TMD's Mr Banker.
Not in the least. Other Far more EXPENSIVE things are in jeopardy right now just because the right head saw what i had to say.
It Sure must suck trying to fight a force with out a leader. One Using there Brain is intelligence. Many using there brains as one without lead or connection between sure must be a frighting thing to face.
Good LUCK! You will need it.
;) Call me We'll partie!
First you take D.C. Then you take New York
..so when you're done drinkin'
..explain to me what the RAD levels are at ground zero!
or STFU.
Sullivan, I know where you're coming from bro. The bickering and finger-pointing is ridiculous and makes us all look like dickheads. But there was none of that happening in this discussion, and unfortunately, the 'shill' shit will come up wherever there is a difference in opinion here, regardless of the subject matter. It's a sad little trademark of the anti-Zionist scene.
Good point. For that reason, the how should be neither here nor there.
My comments mainly pertained to Grim's remark. Anyone would've thought we were discussing erectile dysfunction for how frivolous he implied it all was.
And Grim, you could well be right. It's not necessarily about the law, and revolution could come before trials. Raising awareness is the key, either way.
Became Atmosphere..
And Who Said that the RAD all stayed in N.Y. city? Me? Certainly not.
I know what the MEGA-
GALLONS of WATER (H2O) thrown onto the site was to accomplish.
TERM:Aerosolize - become dispersed as an aerosol; "the bacteria quickly aerosolised"
I know WHERE the RAD went. Anyone with a mind to look through the weather of this period of time will know.
And don't think the other 11% is not going to kill you Mr N.Y. resident.
Go ahead check the AIR you breath. I know what is there in dangerous levels. You should find out Just what too because until you Understand you DON'T HAVE A CLUE.
The BANKER types want to KILL you off to there benefit and PROFIT.
And YOU ARE LOSING BIG TIME.
First you take D.C. Then you take New York
If you know what is there, then I'm sure you must have data (evidence) to back it up. Where is it?
Well, if you have a clue, then how about you share the data?
So, we have NOT ONE SCAN BY A GEIGER COUNTER.
Ouch.
Why don't you hop in your metallic bloo paint-mobile, drive down there and take a reading? You're obviously wealthy enough to do it.
Given that world population has approximately quadrupled over the last 100 years, they don't seem to have been very effective. The Zionists are happy to kill tens of millions if they think it will get them what they want, e.g. a sovereign state (Palestine) that can be used as a sanctuary for criminals and as a base for nukes. But there is no evidence that they have been trying to drastically cut the world population over the last 100 years.
With Out preference for locale. And Anyhow Geiger will not show any thing on the ground it is not built for doing that work. Why else would the EPA look ALL AROUND the obvious and still walk right by.
As i have stated on many comments This micron-size ceramic GAS is all over. The WHOLE atmosphere is living with and having to clean out this TOXIN.
And sorry to shit in your encampment here but MANY much more educated than i am will be having there day at your mass education. Mass spectrometer work showing the ISOTOPIC RATIOS is the only proofs that will be accepted. As worldwide Air Quality programs continue to swing in ever increasing numbers to point at the WAR and say "Serious ORGANIC Troubles are coming as a consequence of the NEW U-238 weapons"
Tons and Tons. For a reason.
And from '45 on any time they can find a pace and a excuse they just light it off to keep the RATIOS up.
And it is going to stop.
First you take D.C. Then you take New York
Who did a test on the piled thick dust around the WTC for radiation?
I don't want a crypto answer.