Looks like we finally got ourselves a presidential candidate with a backbone...
Mr Obama, speaking at a packed press conference in Iowa today, said if MrHoward was concerned about the situation in Iraq he should send 20,000 Australian troops to the strife-torn nation.
Ouch! That must smart!
But, it was worth it!
The Illinois senator added that if Mr Howard did not send the troops, then the prime minister's attack on the Democrat presidential hopeful's Iraq policy was "empty rhetoric".
Take that you old bag of wind!
"I would also note that we have close to 140,000 troops on the ground now and my understanding is that Mr Howard has deployed 1400," Mr Obama, who next year could become the first African American to be elected US president, said.
"So, if he's ginned up to fight the good fight in Iraq, I would suggest he calls up another 20,000 Australians and sends them up to Iraq.
"Otherwise, it's just a bunch of empty rhetoric."
I like his style.
This man is presidential material. Now, if only we can keep him alive.
Mr Howard sparked the war of words yesterday when he took the extraordinary step of declaring that he hoped Mr Obama did not become president of the US, and that his election would be disastrous for the war on terrorism.
Mr Howard said Mr Obama's plan to pull America's combat brigades out of Iraq by March 31, 2008, was a strategy that would "destabilise and destroy Iraq, and create chaos and a victory for the terrorists."
"If I were running al-Qaeda in Iraq, I would put a circle around March 2008 and be praying as many times as possible for a victory, not only for Obama but also for the Democrats," Mr Howard said.
Ah - the old 'who would Osama vote for' card!
Old and dry, John. Old and dry.
Besides, why bother feigning speculation, when we all know that you and your zionist handlers DO run Al-Cia-eda.
Mr Howard's comments came a day after Mr Obama officially launched his US presidential campaign and the clash quickly became one of the top news stories in the US.
Spokesman for Mr Obama, Robert Gibbs, travelling with the senator in Iowa, told American reporters Mr Howard should contribute more Australian troops "so some American troops can come home."
"It's easy to talk tough when it's not your country or your troops making the sacrifices," Mr Gibbs said.
israel does it all the time.
Mr Howard's attack also drew criticism from other senior US Democrats.
Oregon senator Ron Wyden said: "The most charitable thing you can say about Mr Howard's comment is bizarre."
"We'll make our own judgments in this country with respect to elections [thank you very much] and Barack Obama is a terrific public servant."
Mr Obama and Terry McAuliffe, a former chairman of the Democratic National Convention, noted Mr Howard's close relationship with Republican president George W Bush.
"I think it's flattering that one of George Bush's allies on the other side of the world started attacking me the day after I announced," Mr Obama said.
"I take that as a compliment."
And Americans can take it as a signal that Obama is not on the take. To zionists - he's a loose cannon.
Mr Howard also managed to upset at least one Republican senator.
"I would prefer that Mr Howard stay out of our domestic politics and we will stay out of his domestic politics," Texas Republican senator John Cornyn said.
Mr Obama, 45, is the top challenger to Hillary Rodham Clinton to be the Democratic Party's candidate for next year's US presidential election.
Mr Obama has vowed to end the Iraq war if elected president.
Mr Howard's comments received plenty of airplay in the US, with 24-hour news channels CNN and Fox News regularly running reports about the war of words.
But he appeared unrepentant today, saying Mr Obama had failed to address the substance of the war in Iraq.
"I think the most interesting thing about (Senator Obama's comments) is that it didn't really address the substance of the issue," Howard told ABC Radio.
What an idiot.
He didn't have to - you fool. He undercut the basis for your opinion.
This is good news and leaves me hopeful - despite a very trying weekend - that things might improve after all.
Submitted by qrswave on Mon, 2007-02-12 05:07
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I've got the feeling this is all just a "good cop/bad cop" ACT.
Think about that, it's all just so transparent.
Here's the 'gig':
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Not just me, but MANY people (especially if you follow counterpunch.org and whatreallyhappened.com) have STATED LONG AGO that Hillary Clinton has been the 'chosen one' for the next US president.
The question back then was WHO SHOULD SHE DEFEAT????
Obama --- I regretfully have to say, is JUST A USEFUL-GOYIM IN MUSLIM CLOTHES.
This is all an act.
They have nothing to lose.
If Hillary wins, THEY CAN BOAST THAT THE USA IS THE MOST "DEMOCRATIC" nation in the world ---- especially that this is the first a FEMALE US president ever 'elected'.
(put in quotes for a good reason).
If Obama wins, THEY CAN BOAST THAT THE USA IS THE MOST "DEMOCRATIC" (and 'religiously tolerant') nation in the world ---- especially that this is the first time a MUSLIM US president was ever 'elected'.
(put in quotes for a good reason).
though of course, they are eager to see him run to show the world how 'democratic' and 'racially tolerant' America is.
I have read a few statements by Obama before that had me thinking he was zionist bought - but, now I have cause to believe otherwise.
An Obama victory could prove to be their worst nightmare. He truly is unpredictable.
The man has what it takes to reign them in.
If he appears poised to win, I suspect they will try to take him out.
Also notice that "Mr. Obama" and "Mr. Howard" TALK AND TALK AND TALK....
....AND TALK....
....AND TALK....
....About troup 'levels'....
....JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER (zionist controlled) politician.....
....Yet what they do NOT talk about is:
1) Who started this in the first place -- the First War against the people of Iraq
(i.e, the FAKE "Baby Incumbator" Incident)
--- nor the Second (and current) War against the people of Iraq
(i.e., the FAKE "9/11 done by MOSSAD---Oooops---I mean done by 19 Ay-rab 'hijacker' NINJAS).
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2) Who has benefited by wiping out ISRAELS' ENEMIES
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3) The fake 'evidence' of WMD
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4) WHEN THE HELL ARE WE GOING TO BRING ALL -- that's right, ALL -- the troupes back home to be with the familes.
....and hang each and every single GUILTY ZIONIST/MOSSAD/ISRAELI/JEW/KHAZAR????
....HEY, if all this fighting is for the "WAR-ON-TERROR"....
....then why not go after the REAL perpetrators?!!!
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If Mr. Obama is not a spinless Useful-Goy PUPPET, this would be what he be talking about.
Instead, all he does is....
....AND TALK....
....AND TALK....
....About troup 'levels'....
....JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER (zionist controlled) politician.....
....just like reading the lines of a carefully crafted SCRIPT
Obama, may-or-may-not be Muslim....
...but that's besides the point. HE LOOKS MUSLIM, he is being SOLD to the PUBLIC has 'muslim' (at least MOST people ASSUME that's the case from his APPEARANCE).
And that is the key:
With the Zionists, FACTS don't matter. It's all about "APPEARANCES", the projection of the ILLUSION they've crafted.
Qrs, I hope you're right also.... but to me, this all seems like a PLAY on Stage, and all of us are just foolish ACTORS -- unaware we are 'part-of-the-act'.
I do hope you're right, but the amout of 'POSITIVE' media attention Obama has been receiving --- tells me a different story --- that we just give 'false hopes'.
I truly hope he's genuine, but this all seems too much of 'MASSIVE MIND MANIPULATION' to give me any REAL comfort.
....time will tell ;-)
QRS, Also note that BOTH Mr. Obama and Mr. Howard play the famous mens "Pissing Game" or "My-penis-is-bigger-than-yours-Game".
In other words, Mr. Obama talks about how much MORE US troops there are than Australian troops, making the comparison of 140,000 versus 1,400.
And then he 'urges' Mr. Howard to send more troops.
All this talk makes it sound "HEROIC" to fight in Iraq, that it's "HEROIC" to fight for your country, that it's "HEROIC" to fight "TERRORISTS" ABROAD.
..... Q, can you see why I don't have much 'faith' in Mr. Obama?!!!
And I think you have good reason to pause.
I merely hang on to a thread of hope - it gets me through another day.
Obama is young and inexperienced. I suspect he thinks he can have it all.
He will soon learn the hard way that he cannot.
But it sure is putting the odious Howard in his place. It is the classic "put up or shut up" line.
Someone suggested that the election of Hilary Clinton would be cited as proof that the US is a democratic nation, not least because she would be the first woman president. If so, then the US is a little late getting in on the act.
Many countries have had women presidents, some, like Ireland, have had two women presidents. Of course none of these countries have made the fundamental mistake of handing so much power to the office of President, preferring instead to leave in the hands of the relatively more accountable public representatives.
HELLO ALL, i don't underestand how come most people behave the way they do. I mean why are they literally married with celebrity-candidates of the mainstream media. People have this sort of idea that people who appear on CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, TELEMUNDO, UNIVISION, GALAVISION, and most traditional TV channels are a lot better than underground people, like Bob Avakian, Kucinich, Ralph Nader, Michael Rivero, Carl Dix, Chomsky to rule this country. For example even within the Democratic Party why do they choose Hillary and Obama a lot more than Howard Dean, Kucinich, and other people who are a lot better than Obama and Hillary.
Workers of the world: Unite !!
I take issue with Howard Dean - but, I would vote for Mike Rivero any day.
Maybe we can let him run the country from Hawaii, for a change.
helps temper false hopes.
Who is this Obama character?
Who the hell is he?
I don't like any black running a white nation. This guy will ruin the chances for presidency of any other wiser, more qualified and white individual, like Ron Paul. I don't see anything written about Ron Paul running for the White House. How come? Why is Rep. Ron Paul's candidacy missing from most of the news sites? I haven't seen anything about him on this site either. Obama is on every news site. Obama president? A sick joke. America is white and keep it white or else it will go the way of Somalia and Ethiopia, where they don't know what a door knob is for. They don't even have doors or windows. Just ask the folks in Kansas where the US government settled a large number of these savages who eat raw meat and some still practice cannibalism back where they come from.
Obama????? Oh, Mama!!!! Another communist in disguise. And to add insult to injury, he had to be black. I'd rather have Bush president for life than O'Babamba. Why not Robert Mugabe? He'll be better than Mama Obama. He has what O'Mama Babama doesn't: experience in tyranny. Let's get serious. I'll take Bush over any black president any time.
This nation's presidency must reflect not only the racial majority but must equally reflect the race and religion of those who established this nation and those who built it afterwards. Yes, everyone is racist to one degree or another, the same goes for blacks too. Anyone denying it is a liar. Obama O'Mamma will trigger a civil war, which I might add will start anyway, with Obama or without him. There is no room for hyphenated Americans in our country. They may try that in Nigeria or Somalia if they so much like it to be called African-American or Whatever-American. Send them back to the Whatever land wherever the bloody hell they came from. In America there is only one People: the American-American people. Anyone else is to be terminated since it is the enemy. You're either an American or an enemy. America for Americans only.
for us poor hyphenated folks.
You would rather keep Bush than have Obama? That's why the United States is in the shape it's in today.
Don't forget that Douglas Feith and all the other scumbags who set this country on a bloody path to illegal wars have lily white skin.
So, in a sense, you got what you asked for and what you deserve.
mk; There are much better websites for this sort of stuff......... Try David Duke or National Vanguard. I'm sure they will appreciate it very much, thank you.
who is an outstanding candidate - better than Obama, not because he's white but because he's right on many more issues than Obama - among them, the Federal Reserve System - and has far more experience than Obama.
Don't Do It, Mr. President
Your narrowminded perspective on skin color is anachronistic and will take us nowhere but down.
If people don't unite, no one stands a chance.
America is fast becoming non white, with Mexicans, and other non white races flooding in, whites having fewer children and not replacing themselves, homosexuality, sex without responsibility, feminism...etc. The Whites in the US are in deep trouble, unless they wake up.
(I am not white btw, I just think that white and black (all hues) should join together and wake up against the common enemy (Zionist bankers, fraudsters and warmongering cowards).