Muhammad is Allah's [God's] Last Messenger, not the 'founder' of Islam
BY SUMAYYAH MEEHAN
(Living Islam) http://www.iluvislam.com/v1/readarticle.php?article_id=938 21
March 2008
The Prophet Muhammad's (pbuh) name has yet again been in the media as of late due to the republication of the offense Danish cartoon caricatures that continue to be used to taunt Muslims and tarnish the good name of the final messenger (pbuh).
As I watched the recent protests unfold on live television from Muslims around the world in Afghanistan, Pakistan and other nations, I became increasingly irritated with the broadcaster's commentary.
#ffff66">She kept referring to the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as the 'founder' of Islam. And even her interviewees responded in a similar fashion by also referring to him as the 'founder' of Islam. To imply that Muhammad (pbuh) founded Islam or created it is a gross and reprehensible lie that quite often is used by the enemies of Islam to water down the impact that Muhammad's (pbuh) prophethood had on the entire world.
This world has never seen a greater man, prophet, father, statesman, politician, orator, warrior, commander, friend, teacher or confidant than Muhammad (pbuh).
#800000">The simple fact remains that centuries after Muhammad's (pbuh) death, Islam runs strong with people converting every single day because the message of Allah in the Holy Quran rings true and is enticing to the seekers of all that is good in this world.
The founder of Islam is actually Allah Almighty. Allah chose Muhammad (pbuh) to be the final Prophet sent to this world to give both a warning and glad tidings.
Allah Almighty says in the Holy Quran: "Allah knows best with whom to place His Message." (6:124) Anyone who reads a biography of Muhammad's (pbuh) life can see that his prophethood was crystal clear from the time when he was in his mother's womb until he received his mission at the age of 40.
Muhammad's (pbuh) mother Amina became a widow before he was even born as her husband died in a trade caravan. Even before his birth, Amina noted that her belly often emitted a light and she knew that her baby would somehow be special.
Muhammad's (pbuh) mother would die when he was six-years old and he would be sent to live with his grandfather until he died and then his uncle Abu Talib.
The only thing Muhammad (pbuh) knew was loss as he was made an orphan thrice before he even reached puberty. The signs of Muhammad's (pbuh) prophethood were always there. Once on a journey with his uncle to a monastery, a Christian monk witnessed a strange event.
As Muhammad (pbuh) walked, the sun never touched him. He was walking under a shade of which there was no viable source and the monk likened the shape of the shade to the wings of an angel. On the same trip, the monk noticed a mark centered perfectly between Muhammad's (pbuh) shoulder blades and he told Abu Talib that past prophets had the same mark.
To know Muhammad (pbuh) was to love him. He was honest, kind and trustworthy. His profession was as a Shepard tending to his uncle's flock however Muhammad (pbuh) had a knack as a merchant. He began doing trade work for a wealthy widow named Khadijah. She was so pleased with his success that she asked for his hand in marriage even though she was much older than Muhammad (pbuh), about 15 years.
Muhammad (pbuh) was 25 years old and accepted her proposal. He could have most assuredly kicked his feet up and lived off of his wife's wealth. But that was not his nature. Muhammad (pbuh) often spent days on end in a cave called Hira pondering upon this world and the creation of it.
Muhammad (pbuh) did not believe the idols that his clansman worshipped had any power but he knew there was a creator somewhere. Then one night Allah sent the angel Jibreel to tell Muhammad (pbuh) that he was the final messenger (pbuh). Muhammad (pbuh) was so scared at seeing the vision of the angel and feeling his iron-tight embrace as he commanded this: #800000">"READ! In the name of your Lord, Who has created (all that exists), has created man from a clot of congealed blood. READ!" #800000">(96:1-3)
But soon after the fear subsided, Muhammad (pbuh) stood tall and began delivering Allah's message to any heart that would openly hear it.
Overnight, Muhammad (pbuh) went from a man that was living in the lap of luxury to someone who was abused, beaten, spat upon, ridiculed, humiliated and scorned.
Allah Almighty says in the Holy Quran: #800000">"And when they see you (O Muhammad), they treat you only in mockery (saying) 'Is this the one whom Allah has sent as a Messenger?' " #800000">(25:41)
Countless plots to assassinate Muhammad (pbuh) were undertaken and anyone who followed his mission were either tortured or killed. But through it all, Muhammad (pbuh) remained steady in delivering the word of Allah to the people and he had Allah with him all along the way.
The message will continue to grow and attract the intelligence of people who seek the truth with their eyes wide open instead of a mouth open so wide that it swallows whatever is 'sold' on TV.
Sumayyah Meehan is a Kuwait-based American writer . She can be reached at abid...@msn.com
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Look at mr. f. a. knight go....
"You would perhaps like to impose the Sharia against me for daring to oppose your Islamic and totalitarian point of view. You Zealots follow a Zionist inspired Islam and I do not mine pointing it out.
I personally would not give two cents for you'll organized religion be it Islam, Christianity, or Judaism. Free Thinkers are not confined to foolish dogmas and belief systems.
I think if Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was live today he would declare Jihad against the religion of Islam because the deviations are obvious."
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Now I thought you said you read so much about Islam. For if you did you would not speak this way.
If you are such a FREE THINKER, then why is it SO HARD for your "brilliant" intellect to grasp a very simple truth: That the prophet Muhammad was a messenger NOT a founder. It is clear that you are all bent out of sorts, mr. night-of-the-living-dead.
I am fed up with you pretending to be "free-minded".
Instead, it appears to me that you have chains going 'round that brain that have you so discombobulated, that you have the world's Muslims as terrorist zionists, and arabian sheikdom is your silly vantage point - which is absurd.
What is even more absurd is you saying that if Muhammed were alive he would declare Jihad against Islam??????
THANK YOU. You just undid yourself.
If you don't give 2 cents, then why are you throwing 'round items like Sharia, Muhammad, wahhabism, Jihad, and Islam? And you've got them all meaning one ugly thing.
You JERK.
You're selling and I'm not buying.
Painful, eh?
fahim knight - "Now! Since I will not accept your Zionist inspired Islam coming out of Mecca."
NO one here is making you accept any bizarre Zionist-inspired “islam”….which would not be Islam, now would it?
And no one is telling you that you must accept or embrace Islam. But you should not be rude and show such disrespect to my corrections.
The relegation of the debate with emotions and insults started with you when you started calling people
Z E A L O T S.
For your info, most web pages that go on about Muhammad being a founder of Islam are truly bigoted sites, directors of such sites despise Islam, and they are usually Zionist-inspired.
I could link a whole bunch of them.
Why are YOU behaving like such a bigot, mr. Knight?
Rhiannon's the Mac
Come on, one thread is enough to quarrel on.
assalamu alaikum
very good post, thanks.
Fahim Knight is right about the Prophet (saw) being against what is going on in the muslim world if he were here. In fact he predicted that the scholars and shaykhs of the latter days would be like swine. He predicted mosques would be full of people and devoid of guidance. He said that if the jews had done a certain evil before the time of christ, someone from the muslims would do it as well.
'A Warner came unto the world, but the world accepted him not; yet God shall manifest His favour and demonstrate his truth with powerful assaults.'
--- revelation to the Imam Mahdi (as)
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quote: Fahim A. Knight Now! Since I will not accept your Zionist inspired Islam coming out of Mecca. Thus, you have relegated your emotional debate to insults. You would perhaps like to impose the Sharia against me for daring to oppose your Islamic and totalitarian point of view. You Zealots follow a Zionist inspired Islam and I do not mine pointing it out. Once again what I wrote and argued, I can stand on it with the best of you. I personally would not give two cents for you'll organized religion be it Islam, Christianity, or Judaism. Wow! All that insight and still you believe! To know that something is a lie and yet believe as if it were true and then forget that it was a lie in the first place. Oh! The cognitive dissonance you must experience daily. Thank David Ick (my messiah) for double think. Amen
No…. fahim darkness is not right about anything. Not anymore.
Apparently, you didn't clearly see what he wrote.
He said exactly this: Muhammed would declare jihad on the religion Islam for deviations.
He did not mention any particular person or group of people – he said religion/Islam.
Once again, he uses wording to confuse people. Is this the intention?
This mr. Night thinks he is clever by pretending that he actually cares about Muslims and truth….. Then he stabs Muslims in the back by defining Islam into some kind of close-minded, suffocating ideology - and basing it all on what the sheiks and princes do in arabia.
Nobody here, no Muslim has ever made an announcement of living in Utopia because they follow Islam – It is because people are Muslims, a great percentage of them are suffering in the world - [examples: Iraq / Palestine / Lebanon]– not because their Faith, but because Israelis can’t stand that the Muslim population is growing – they are sickened with jealousy and envy.
That is just one reason.
So the Israeli / American Zionists gossip about Islam, Muhammad, and Muslims. And they paint them in the same broad stroke as the rich Arabian clerks. Such righteous people, the wondrous chosen – but why do you suppose they do it – eh? Mr. Night?
#333399">Knight - - "You better convince those racist and bourgeoisie Islamic Arab Clerics inSaudi Arabia
Why don't you go do that yourself, hmmm? Why are YOU behaving like a mangy little gossip? Why are you acting like an israeli and shaking your finger at me about Arabia? Why don't YOU ...
realize that we have much bigger, more insidious terrorists to fry, than what is going on in arabia?
arabian kings and princes actually replenish some of the USA economy - "israel" DOES NOT.
Nobody - including the Muslim pop. of the world - is crying over the hypocrites in Arabia – why are YOU, mr. night?
JOIN GOD & THE^ENLIGHTENMENT
Funny; you took the words right out of my mouth^sweetie!
Religions run the entire gambit; from totally-wrong, to mostly^right; yet their existence, by nature is that of a beast.
So, MR.nite; this is for you (and every^1)
Some people ACTUALLY BELiEVE BULLSHiT, and^when you want to convert them to The^Truth; iT^iS best to understand THEM first.
cause Ahmadiyya & Nation of Islam both are part of the same 'ol Pseudo-Islamic Cults .
So what you are saying is these various sects of Islam are cults that have broken away from mainstream Islam? Does Islam benefit from having break any groups? I guess you could look at it like the catholics look at the protestants, Mormons, and or the Jehovah Wittinesses. Have you ever wondered who started those groups? But who are we to judge after all WE COULD SAY THAT CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM ARE BREAK AWAY CULTS JUDAISM. Just maybe Jewish invented religions are the problem,
Islam does not benefit from people or groups….it is the people who benefit from Islam.
This is the better way to understand religion.
If people want to follow a cult…then they should especially keep their noses out other people’s business who follow one of the main religions.
Religion is NOT the problem
God is NOT the problem
The prophets of God are not the problem.
The problems are the distortions, ill-conceived perceptions, and mind games of PEOPLE.
As for Christianity and Islam being break off cults of Judaism…
Ya know LAV, we could say that your speculations and hunches are nowhere as clever as Batman & Robin.
Riddle me this: How do you manage your insurance claims on the batmobile with all those bumbling accidents on the batmobile court?
I am Mayan- so my perspective on Jewish inspired religions Is very different than most westerners.
It has been 500 years since my people were conquered and made slaves. However, life under Mayan Rule would not be particularly different from the current foreign rulers. Oppression is oppression. I suppose that I am being honest to understand that my inequality is for the most part permanet. My people and I will die on this plantation.
Although, I am a slave. My mind is free. Although I do not endorse any formal religion - I do support anyone who is protecting their way of life. I support Muslims! However, I see them between a rock and a hard place. I guess that it would be like me siding with the Mayans instead of conquistadors. That is a rough choice.
Orwell wrote "God is power" Orwell went on to explain that power is really power over men. Thing that the elite fight or everyday and twice on Sunday is influence over your emotions and behavior. This is why there have been so many splitter groups.
To quote myself:
Several years back, I discovered the Jewish role in the construction of the worlds major political movements (Please see you-tube video). It would take a bit longer to understand why Communism,socialism,and capitalism were really fundamentally the same. These different movements are more than just compatible. Socialism, Communism and Capitalism are essentially the same thing. They all promote hierarchy. In other words, regardless of whether property is private (capitalism) or public (communism) all systems agree that public/private resource must be managed. And this begs the question- Who does the managing? Now we come back full circle because various groups or oligarchies spring forth to claim the pole position. The resulting conflict is resolved when one group demonstrates dominance over another group resulting in a power hierarchy. Unfortunately, religion is basically the same thing. Religious experts claiming to have a direct connection with God claim primacy over the Law and its interpretation. So ultimately, ALL GROUPS TRY TO CONTROL MEN BY KEEPING THEM FROM DEVELOPING. BECAUSE IF MAN WERE TO EVOLVE THEY WOULD QUICKLY DISCOVER THE NATURE THEIR RELATIONSHIP TO THESE GROUPS. Hence The Church of the middle ages instituted the dark ages. Muslims have their Shahria Law. The Aryans created the Hindu caste system. The Jews have Rabbi's. The current ruling Zionist group suppresses technology,provides mind numbing entertainment, and other distractions. The real power comes from controlling what your subjects think. In many ways, power was and is the first universal currency. With power over men one could make the stars disappear. I could walk on water! The reason is because I can control what you think. Reality is in the mind. So this is why I praise David Icke because over the last 17 years he has crafted an elaborate system of religion. Just think about the influence that he has. Think of the power! By the way Icke is a Alistest Crowely follower and a product of Tavistock.
I forgot to add the Wahhabis in that list, we all know that how they started out in the late 1800s & about their banker friends in Europe! ;)
If you look at the history of these weirdo cults/sects, you'll see how conviniently they all started out in the late whatever centuries (big thanks to those bankers in Europe!) to destroy the message & teaching of Islam.
Are you talking about #ff0000">ALEISTER CROWLEY?
#ff0000">SATAN WORSHIPPER#ff0000">, #00ff00">SEXUAL #00ff00">DEVIANT, #ff0000">ALEISTER CROWLEY?
Are you just being funny or are you serious? Either way you are ridiculous.
Some damn nerve you had even talking about Scott Ritter the way you did. That is some damn nerve.
Rhiannon, I never quite understood you adversarial approach to blogging. I am merely stating my observations from my unique perspective. From my vantage point, I see no difference between, Jesus Christ, Crowley, and or the prophet Mohamed. I am not making any claims related to their sincerity or truthfulness. I am arguing something different. I believe that Religion or esoteric mysticism are systems of influence. The reason I praise Daivid Icke is because he is clearly a nutter or an agent. It has been 17 years since Icke proclaimed that he was the messiah and his influence has only grown. Most of the people that I have spoken with about Icke seem convinced that he is nuts. This is were we need a birds eye view. Consider that Icke was on the fast track to be come a big TV celebrity. He gave up fame,fortune and influence be become a cult leader. Today Icke is internationally known and well received to some degree. So I will ask you a few questions: 1. Is David Icke telling the truth about the nature of the elites? 2. Does the truth even matter when dealing with believers? I hope this post clears things up. Cheers
That's pretty much a myth, derived from the fact that he liked to call himself 'The Beast'. He's gotta be one of the most misunderstood people on record. Super-interesting guy.
Always consider the source! From Rense.com
Was Aleister Crowley Barbara Bush's Father?
TheFreemanPerspective.blogspot.com 6-22-7 Pauline Pierce was friends with Aleister Crowley, maybe more than friends. Pauline had a reputation of being a bit on the wild-side in the 20's. It's been reported that she and Aleister were in France together around September/October of 1924. Upon return to America and her boyfriend here, Pauline gave birth to Barbara Pierce. Fearing retaliation from James I, the Pierces changed their name from Percy to hide from their involvement in the "Gun Powder Plot" of 1605, starring Thomas Percy, Robert Catesby, and, of course, Guy Fawkes, the fall guy. We actually get the word, guy, from Guy Fawkes. He was also known as Guido, but I digress. The "Gun Powder Plot" was designed to make James I of Biblical fame, harsher on the Catholics, for he was the target of all that gun powder. With a few plot twists, Lord Robert Cecil, the Earl of Salisbury and Venetian Intelligence, councilor to James, informed him of the plot. Cecil was behind the plot. Guy Fawkes took the fall. He was the Timothy Mc Veigh of his time. For those of you that believe it would make an impact to dress as this patsy, it would do better to use your own imagination rather than that provided by the magician's wand. Even now, few understand that plot: Guy was no fox but a dupe ensnared by the chief minister himself in a madcap scheme to blow up King and Parliament. The real plot was royally successful: to invent a pretext for war with Spain. This fraud was the foundation of the British Empire. Fawkes was discovered and arrested during a raid on the cellar in the early morning of 5 November. Catesby and Percy were cut down in the process and killed on the spot. Guy was immediately taken to the Tower of London and tortured over the next few days, after special permission to do so had been granted by the King. On 31 January, Fawkes, and a number of others implicated in the conspiracy, were tried in Westminster Hall, and after being found guilty, were taken to Old Palace Yard in Westminster and St. Paul's Yard, where they were hanged, drawn, and quartered. Fawkes cheated this fate in a way: though weakened by torture, he jumped from the gallows and snapped his neck rather than being hanged until almost dead. Quite simply, all the fireworks are to celebrate the torture and execution of Mr. Fawkes, who, along with several other Catholics, conspired to blow up Parliamentor did they? It seems that the "gun powder" was corn powder and would not have exploded. The "Hidden Hand" was behind the works and the Wizard of Oz is Lord Robert Cecil, the Earl of Salisbury and Venetian Intelligence. Venice needed England to war with Spain to keep the money rolling in. They were the CIA of their day. So why did I start this with Pauline Pierce, you ask? Pauline Pierce, after sexcapades with Aleister Crowley, gave birth to Barbara Pierce who became Barbara Bush, who gave birth to none other than, George VV Bush, Aleister's grand-son. Barbara Pierce is a descendant of President Franklin Pierce, Sr (not a Freemason), who is a descendant of Thomas Percy who tried to blow up the Parliament and King James I. Franklin Pierce lost favor over wanting to keep slavery alive and was replaced by James Buchanan (Freemason) who is a descendant of James I and both James are accused of being homosexual. You couldn't make this stuff up! And what revelation does this tale of V portend? These vilest of villians will get you to do their dirty work and kill you in the end for the vacuous endeavor of making slaves of men.
If Louis Farrakhan would have seen what knight had wrote about Muhammad, he too would have emphatically made clear that Muhammad is a PROPHET not a founder. And the difference between the words “founder” and PROPHET is immense.
Yet here is knight talking about joining the Nation of Islam, and putting an X in his name. What? Does that make any sense? If fahim knight has a masked contempt for Muhammad, how can this be?
Now you bring up this aleister crowley / icke stuff.
Jesus / Muhammad = Crowley?
Crowley was very well known to be petty, cruel, dishonest, mega maniacal, bigoted, extremely boastful, obscene, conniving, used women like toilet paper, played around with men, too.
Crowley was also addicted to cocaine and heroin - he lived off of the gullible generosity of the rich for money – in essence he was a mere little creep – this for sure I know.
What? You think Muhammad and Jesus were the same as crowley?
Oh I agree with you 100% that you have never understood what I say in my posts and comments - that is quite clear! And you never will. But that won’t stop my ““adversarial approach”” to blogging.
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How do you know Crowley wasn’t into the kabbalah and black magic, and things to do with satan? Are you sure he didn’t worship satan, COZ?
Neither! Crowley is a priest of power. He was a con-man. Crowley's mystism is really a cover for his real intentions. In may ways he reminds me of Rasputin. I have read a little of Crowley's writing and they seem to Satanic but I tend to look at it like "mystical revolutionarnism."
.....whether crowley was a satan worshipper or a dark magician interested in the kabala.
Lav....
as usual, you muddy the waters with nonsense.
As Usual.
Just like you tried with Scott Ritter.
Now you bring up how you praise Icke the follower of crowley. I couldn't care less.
You make idiotic remarks about the Prophets of God because you don't know any better.
Embrace and praise your Icke! Go at it til you drop!
Just because david icke does not see God, doesn't mean he knows better than other people who believe.
I don't mean to offend anyone but these two different things. It would like comparing Holy Roman Catholics with the Follower of Martin Luther. These are two different power groups. In respect to Jesus, Mohamed, and Crowley- I see no difference. Structurally their power or ability to influence is predicted on some external force. GOD IS POWER! Jesus is the word of god by god. Mohamed is the revealed word of god. Crowley thinks he is a god. Lastly, Believers believe.
It was a sarcastic question.
Don't be so passive-aggressive, Lav.
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That the people of Nation of Islam and and people who follow Islam have differences - that has nothing to do with what I said about fahim night.
THAT IS NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.
But you ignored that.
You did that on purpose.
You see lav, you keep sidestepping my basic issue with fahim night, so you are playing games.
Or am I just giving you too much credit for TRYING to be clever?
Because maybe you are just plain not able to comprehend. Yes well that was clear in the beginning.
I believe that David is an agent. My guess is that he is associated with the Tavistock Institute. Icke uses religion to convince people of his world view. People who believe in Unicorns, Santa, Jesus, and all the prophets use the same psychological process to form their opinions. All of these leaders use similar techniques to engage their followers and create a psychological state of submission. Now what I can not argue and will not argue is the truthfulness of those religious claims made by the religious leaders of the past nad present. To be blunt: The teaching of Mohamed or Jesus maybe true or false but it makes no difference to the FOLLOWERS OF THE SHEPARD. Sheep by definition always believe.
May the greenones never visit your home.
Book of Icke from "songs of reptiles" lol
Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Crowley was a hardcore occultist and didn't subscribe to any one religion. He would worship multiple deities, but had no attachment to any given one. He would spend days 'manifesting' one deity (Horus, Isis, whatever - they were just thought-forms to him) and then abandon that deity for another.
But as you say, it doesn't make much difference. I don't think you'd approve of his practices anyway.
We really speak two different languages. Huge debates have been started by people claiming to understand the word of god better than others. Exactly, what criteria would one use to determine if they had a better understanding of the holy text compared to others? Since I know of no piety litmus test we must conclude that all beliefs pertaining to the unknowable are dubious inferences. So now what makes one dubious claim better than the other? Most of us would say that it is just a matter of faith. I have tried to be intellectually honest. I claim that all the organized religions are corrupt because their main purpose is control over what their followers think and feel.
A crowley trademark style?
I DON'T care what mr. icke is.
You are the one that brought up all this nonsense.
A psychological state of submission?
You see this is your whole problem, you put God, Santa, and crowley together as if to make them into the same thing.
That dear watson is YOUR problem! YOUR hang up. But you are not right to do so.
Why bother having traffic lights? Or we should let them all be green, no?
Submitting to God does not mean to be a slave, zombie, or a tea biscuit, as YOU would have people believe, as YOU believe yourself.
ANYWAY...I have said this before, and I never tire of saying it again:
God is not dependent on our belief in HIM. Whether we like it or not, we are dependent on HIM.
Just because you don't see God, is no proof to YOUR way of thinking.
Just because you think the teachings of Jesus and Mohammed are false will never make it so.
That's just your opinion.
You never did see my video with Stephen McHattie, did you?
I see a lot of God going on in that video clip.
I will watch it. I reserve judgement until I have seen your evidence.
Here is one of my videos:
Yeah, we speak different languages.
Never mind.
All I am saying, really, is it is the intentions that really count. Not titles, not ownership, not wealth, not awards. Intentions are what you will take with you when you die.
And intentions and the actions they are based on are what people judge you by. Actions ARE important but sometimes they get interrupted and other actions replace the original.
It is of no consequence.
I see I came down on you like a ton of bricks.
No worries.
Crimes....I did read something in a book about Aleister Crowley by Tony Sanchez. He used to work for the Rolling Stones in the 60s and 70s.
His book Up and Down with the Rolling Stones had a few pages about him. My memory is really blurry. So I assumed he worshipped the devil.
I still have the book. The pages are a ghastly yellow.
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Here LAV, if you are interested in watching the Stephen McHattie video. Just scroll down to the last video. I made sure that I wrote some text above the video so as to lend it extra importance.
I need to watch it again.
But what I can grasp is YOU are saying - through this video - that we are all in danger of being a part of the party, no longer "alone" and free.
Children will be taken from their mothers.
Procreation will just be a perfunctory duty to maintain a certain # in the population?
Love and Justice will be done away with and only POWER will exist.
Anyway...I have to look at it again to get a firm take on it.
But it sounds a lot like AZ and Masher's THX1138 movie with Robert Duvall.
Is that what you mean?
But we won't reach that point indicated by the video.
Here is another one.
Yeah LAV created the video, Rhiannon. The audio is a narrated excerpt from George Orwell's 1984.
This is a really good point. What he's saying, while refusing to engage in a religious debate, is that people are being controlled and power is being exercised, man-over-man. When people are locked into a certain belief system, they are easily manipulated. Fears are exploited and guilt trips are laid.
This is why organised religion, and the dogma thereof, is so dangerous. I believe reality is more subjective than objective, always new and fresh, always in flux. Certainly there's plenty of evidence that that's the case: a devoted Christian will have experiences that confirm the reality of Jesus, and a Buddhist will recall past lives during meditation. Aleister Crowley understood this, and would devote himself to the worship of multiple deities, one at a time for months on end, until it manifested in his physical reality as a thought-form, at which point he would start again. He knew the power was in consciousness, and not in the object of his consciousness.
..i can tell you what i DON'T believe in..
From my vantage point, I see no difference between, Jesus Christ, Crowley, and or the prophet Mohamed. I am not making any claims related to their sincerity or truthfulness.
How do we know, thousands of years later, that what Jesus said was represented accurately by the tribe israel, who seem to blame it all on the Judah, yet claim to be them. Something tells me the pharisites were more pale than the average, like most nobility.
That OTO is like the illuminati, to call them freemasons is using a wide brush.
I've never seen someone who's joined a cult; who hasn't gotten ill with a life-long, incurable disease. Faith in God is worth more than infinte ramblings^0.
To compare him to someone peaceful and Good, makes me wonder. Riddle you this Joker: what does it matter? The Crime is OBVIOUS FOR ALL TO SEE.
I think people that make comments like that about the messengers of God; are the messengers of something-not.
Did it fall off yet?