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Behind the scenes of Hezbollah’s latest victory
I’ve just read a large number of web sites, and have been piecing together some information. This is what the scene looks like to me. Perhaps those who know more about Lebanon can correct me if I am wrong...
It seems that neither the USA nor israel were directly behind the March 14 alliance’s decision to shut down Hezbollah’s communications network.
Rather, it was a botched Saudi-British plot, and it caused the USA and its Jewish masters to be humiliated (once again) by Hezbollah.
Bush and his handlers are furious, and are quietly punishing the British government for the clumsy plan.
To explain all this, we must first back up…
In the 1970s, U.S. weapons makers won major contracts to sell fighter planes and other weapons systems to the Saudis. The israelis screamed, “holocaust!” but their control of the USA was not yet total, and the weapons sales went through. When Reagan sold five AWACS planes to the Saudis in 1982, the israelis screamed so loudly that the USA apologized to its Jewish masters, and backed off.
This forced the Saudis to turn to France or England for new arms sales.
In September 1985, England won the weapons contracts because the Thatcher government paid massive bribes to the Saudi Royal family, and to Saudi government officials.
The British arms shipments became Britain's largest export agreement ever -- indeed the biggest UK sales of anything to anyone. It was hundreds of billions worth of weapons, ranging from fighter planes to specialized naval vessels, to various infrastructure works, and so on.
In return, the Saudis send 600,000 barrels of oil a day to the British government.
This became known as the Al Yamamah scandal, which has continued for twenty-three years. (Al Yamamah means “dove” in Arabic).
The British company that handles the sales and bribes is BAE Systems, formerly known as British Aerospace. It employs about 5,000 people in Arabia.
The most recent BAE deal (August 2006) was to sell seventy-two Eurofighter Typhoon multi-role fighter jets to the Saudis.
For twenty-three years, various branches of the British government have looked into the Al Yamamah bribery scandal, but the British prime minister’s office has shut them down one by one.
At the end of November 2006, when the investigation was threatening to continue for two more years in order to probe Swiss bank accounts, BAE Systems was negotiating a further sale of Eurofighter Typhoons to the Saudi government. The contract was worth £ 10 billion.
Prince Bandar bin-Sultan of Arabia grew tired of being questioned, and gave prime minister Blair an ultimatum: shut down ALL investigations into Al Yamamah bribery scandal within TEN DAYS, or the Saudis would start buying weapons from France.
(Prince Bandar had previously served as Saudi ambassador to the USA, and helped fund Mossad’s 9 /11 false flag operation, plus MI6’s false-flag bombings of London subways in July 2005. Bandar has no great love for Israel, but business is business, and war is profitable.)
Blair obeyed. On 12 Dec 2006, British Attorney General Lord Goldsmith ordered the 15-member investigation team to surrender all their files on the Al Yamamah scandal. Two days later, Goldsmith announced that the investigation was completely shut down.
Here’s where Lebanon comes in…
Since the British arms deals through BAE involved barter (arms-for-oil), the bribes to the Saudis and the weapons deals were not recorded in England’s national budget. Some of the bribe money goes to Saudi individuals, and some of it created a $100 billion British MI6 / Saudi intelligence offshore slush fund for covert operations. Those slush funds have been used to finance wars in Africa and Asia for the past 23 years.
Sometimes the USA and israel are involved in those wars. For example, Saudi / BAE covert funds are used to finance the ongoing destabilization in the Horn of Africa—particularly targeting Sudan -- plus the growing Wahabi insurgency in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Sometimes the USA and israel are NOT directly involved. When the Saudis and MI6 hatch a plot that embarrasses the USA and its Jewish owners, the latter take revenge (as I will explain below).
That’s what happened in Lebanon.
Lebanon’s Saad Hariri – the millionaire son of former prime minister Rafiq Hariri (who Mossad assassinated and blamed on Syria) -- went to Arabia and learned how the Saudi / BAE slush fund operates. Saad Hariri wants to step into his late father’s shoes and become Lebanon’s prime minister. In Arabia he got big ideas for himself and his “Future Movement” political party. The Saudis would help him become prime minister if Hariri were bold and aggressive. With Saudi money behind him, Hariri could buy Israeli acquiescence, build up Lebanon, and become even richer than his father. He would be king of the Levant!
When Hariri returned to Lebanon, he convinced the March 14 alliance that the Saudis would back the order to dismantle Hezbollah’s communications network. This would restore legitimacy to prime minister Fouad Saniora, but Hariri’s real ambitions were for himself.
Most Lebanese people (indeed most Arabs) are aware of all this. They know the reason why Hezbollah shut down all Saudi-related operations in Lebanon, and made sure that Hariri was marginalized. (Hariri, his plan defeated, will now spend his days on his yachts, telling nubile women about the “Lebanon that might have been” if he had become king.)
Thus, Hezbollah’s main target this time was not zionists, but Saudi-connected people like Saad Hariri, plus Lebanese Grand Mufti Mohamed Rashid Qabbani, plus idiots like Wahid Jumblatt, plus would-be warlords like Samir Gangea. All these clowns (plus the Saudis) want to rule Lebanon, and they cooperate with Israel against Hezbollah. Other hangers-on include Christian militants such as Maronite Patriarch Nasrallah Boutros Sfeir. Even the Ramgavar party (Lebanese Armenians) wants a piece of the action.
The USA also wants to get rid of Hezbollah -- but on israel’s terms, not the Saudis’. When Bush ordered the USS Cole (guided missile cruiser) to anchor off Lebanon recently, it was partly to send a message to the Saudis: “Lebanon is ISRAEL’S playground, NOT YOURS!”
Cherifa Sirry told us about some of this here…http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/6696.
She also described how the Saudi ambassador to Lebanon fled as Hezbollah closed in on him (http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/6784 ).
She also told us about fiery exchanges between the Saudi foreign minister and Syria. (http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/6769 )
By neutralizing the Saudi elements, Hezbollah indirectly helped Bush and his Jewish masters, since Hezbollah cleared the field for all-new israeli meddling in Lebanon. However, in the process, Hezbollah also humiliated Bush and israel, who now want revenge against the Saudis, the BAE, and the British government. (Call it a family squabble.)
Thus, once again, the USA has made sure the $84 billion Al Yamamah bribery scandal is in British newspapers, after so many investigations were shut down by order of the Saudis. As a result, British prime minister Gordon Brown is in hot water. Bush wants him to squirm so badly that Brown will spank MI6 and order them to get Bush / Israeli clearance from now on.
Bush is also punishing BAE. Last week, after Hezbollah embarrassed the Bush regime, Bush detained Mike Turner (Chief Executive of BAE) and Nigel Rudd (a non-executive director of BAE) when both men landed at George Bush International Airport in Houston Texas. The men were detained because some of the MI6 / Saudi intelligence slush fund / bribe money is funneled through U.S. banks.
The Bush regime is also threatening to bring charges against US employees of BAE, plus senior management from the head office.
In Houston, when U.S. officials grabbed Turner and Rudd of BAE, they confiscated both men’s laptop computers, cell phones, and papers. All information was copied. Then the two BAE men were given their property back, and were released.
When the USA and its Jewish masters are embarrassed, they become angry. When they are embarrassed and lose money, they strike. For example, in Houston, the USA sentenced the 'NatWest Three' British businessmen to 37 months in prison each (February 2008). The men were money-launderers connected with the Yamamah bribery scandal, and they had not gotten Bush’s permission to play around with Enron funds that were hidden in a Cayman Islands account.
THE BOTTOM LINE is that Hezbollah’s latest victory has direct repercussions in the USA and Europe.
Iran must surely be laughing.
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AAZ
AAZ… I read your very interesting post and I clearly see your point on Saudi Arabia’s role in Lebanon and agree with most of what you say. I don’t see however where the UK plays a role in Lebanon. I try to follow the foreign officials who arrive to Lebanon, but I never took notice of any regular British ones. Do you have anyone in mind? For what it’s worth, here are my comments as I went along your article.
“It seems that neither the USA nor israel were directly behind the March 14 alliance’s decision to shut down Hezbollah’s communications network.”
I can’t imagine the March 14th alliance taking such drastic decisions without informing their masters.. and indeed their masters are not only in the US (and Israel), but also in Saudi Arabia. It took an 11 hour meeting for the March 14th forces to come up with the 2 drastic decisions.. and these people don’t ever meet 11 hours or even 3 hours since Lebanon as a country has not been functioning for the past year and a half… and they literally have nothing to do. While this famous meeting was taking place, we already knew that something was cooking… because it is not normal for them to spend so many hours in a closed meeting without the media. Second, along with the ratification of those 2 decisions, the Siniora government sent a copy of them to the UN with a covering letter and personal note by Fouad el Siniora (of which the opposition got a copy) to Ban Ki Moon asking for United Nations help in implementing those decisions. Would the Siniora government have done that without consultation with the US?? That was another way of asking for International Forces to enter Lebanon to challenge Hezbollah. Who are the parties interested in challenging Hezbollah? Many. The US, Israel & then Saudi Arabia… and I would place them in this order of importance. I don’t think that I’d place Saudi Arabia before the US. Would you? I might place them together now. Remember also that there is a ridiculous story that the Saudis have not been able to swallow. In one of his speeches, Bashar el Assad accused the Arabs (and he meant Mubarak and the Saudi King) of being “half-men” for not taking a clear stand with Hezbollah. Bashar apologized later, but the Saudi king just can’t forget… or is using this as an excuse to cover up for his ambitions in Lebanon…
Hariri assassination
I don’t think that the Mossad alone is responsible for the it. I think that the cia played a major role, if not the main. It is said that the only active mobile lines in vicinity of the assassination area belonged to the anyway suspicious US group called The Committee for a Free Lebanon which is a cia front group the Committee to Free Iraq or something of the sort… I can’t quite remember was the Iraq one was called.
Hariri Junior was the ‘natural candidate’ for coming prime minister of Lebanon. The fact that his father was assassinated and that the world community blamed it on Syria and Hezbollah only made him stronger… although In reality the man is a wimp and not too bright. Like his father, Hariri junior is a Saudi citizen and of course Saudi Arabia’s ‘man’ in Lebanon. He is a Sunni and the Lebanese Prime Minister has to be a Sunni. He was born backed with Saudi money and will die this way. Junior didn’t need to make any effort to get Saudi support. He is owned by Saudi Arabia and is the representative of Saudi Sunni clout in Lebanon. When the Saudis called on their citizens lately to leave Lebanon because of the instable situation (they created), the Lebanese called on Junior to leave because he was a Saudi. This being said, Hariri junior is very very popular among his movement, the Mustaqbal (Future). They treat him like Elvis.
You mention: “With Saudi money behind him, Hariri could buy Israeli acquiescence, build up Lebanon, and become even richer than his father. He would be king of the Levant! “
As you know, Hariri senior was also king of the Levant. The difference however between Senior and Junior is interesting: Senior didn’t want the resistance (Hezbollah) to be threatened in any manner, while Junior has been conspiring against it from day one… due maybe to his idiotic conviction that it was somehow involved in his father’s assassination. Junior is very easily influenced and he is surrounded by a gang of criminals… literally: Samir Geagea and Walid Jumblat. Hariri Senior also was against the US wish to open the Klei3at airport… which is now open and which the US forces use to send weapons to the militias they sponsor…. Namely Hariri’s militia. When Hezbollah took control over Beirut in a few hours and with no trouble at all… and ousted all of Hariri’s militias out of their quarters confiscating their guns and handing both to the army, the US was furious because it had spent millions and millions on them… to only find out that it was a piece of cake for Hezbollah to get rid of them. I must admit, Hezbollah took over Beirut so professionally! It was a site to see. They also handed over Beirut to the Lebanese army once they had unarmed all the militias… which the US and yes… Saudi Arabia of course too had been paying for. AAZ… it was a joy to watch:)
“When Hariri returned to Lebanon, he convinced the March 14 alliance that the Saudis would back the order to dismantle Hezbollah’s communications network. “
First it must be noted that Hariri Junior travels to Saudi Arabia on regular basis. Second, Hariri and the March 14 Forces tried incessantly on several occasions in those past 18 months to discredit the opposition lead by Hezbollah and the Free Patriotic Party (the Christians). They tried with the help of international fake media campaigns, they tried with the Nahr el Bared affair (and that was Saudi money and US media backing), then via assassinations, they tried with complaints to the UN and on and on… They used practically every tool they had (with Saudi Arabia’s Sunni support of course… as well as US + puppets all over the Middle East) to discredit Hezbollah and their allies. They failed. The March 14th Forces imagined that they could ‘out-live’ Hezbollah and the opposition if they just hang on in there long enough…, but they were wrong. Everybody knew it except for them and their supporters who were all swimming against the tide.
“This would restore legitimacy to prime minister Fouad Saniora, but Hariri’s real ambitions were for himself. “
Yes… a tremendous effort has been made these past 18 month to restore Siniora’s legitimacy… but of course to no avail. Who however are the interested parties in restoring his legitimacy? Saudi Arabia or the US? I would imagine that it would primarily be the US. Siniora was a US man. Hariri also was, but primarily he was a Saudi man as you rightly point out. With or without Siniora, Hariri would have remained a Saudi man and an important figure in Lebanon. Allied with Siniora or with Hezbollah (and he was previously as was his father…), Hariri will remain Saudi’s man. Restoring Fouad el Siniora’s legitimacy was I think and American/Israeli ambition… and also an Arab puppet government ambition. After all those governments don’t want to see themselves in Siniora’s shoes.
“Most Lebanese people (indeed most Arabs) are aware of all this. They know the reason why Hezbollah shut down all Saudi-related operations in Lebanon”
Yes, it is no secret that Hezbollah has been fighting Saudi Arabia… because Saudi Arabia has been fighting Hezbollah. However, as I said before, Hariri is a weakling and that also is no secret in Lebanon. It is known that Hariri Junior is easily influenced and mostly by the 2 notorious: Walid Jumblat and Samir Geagea… both US/Israeli agents. Hezbollah I am sure was very conscious of that since it was apparent in the very agenda Hariri Junior started adopting and spelling out for Lebanon.
“Thus, Hezbollah’s main target this time was not zionists, but Saudi-connected people like Saad Hariri, plus Lebanese Grand Mufti Mohamed Rashid Qabbani, plus idiots like Wahid Jumblatt, plus would-be warlords like Samir Gangea”
Exactly…, they were the indirect aim… and worked very well through the idiot Saad.
Maronite Patriarch Nasrallah Boutros Sfeir
What an awful fellow. He is one of the main reasons Lebanon has so many problems and Lebanese Christians are leaving the country. The man who will most likely be elected president of Lebanon (Gen. Michel Suleiman) is the only man that Sfeir didn’t endorse because he originally was Hezbollah’s candidate. Not very intelligent. He always ends up getting the contrary of what he wants:)
As for my Saudi Ambassador fleeing Lebanon post, it was a little tongue in cheek. He didn’t flee, but Saudi Arabia wanted him gone because Saudi was losing all credibility in Lebanon and felt that it was no longer adequate to leave representation there. The Saudis had also asked their citizens to leave… but I am not at all sure that they did leave. The ambassador did have to take a boat out of Beirut, because the opposition (lead by Hezbollah) controlled Beirut and refused to open the airport for him. That was a well deserved touch of humiliation from the Hezb to Saudi. (http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/6784 ).
As for the fiery exchange between Saudi Arabia and Syria in the Arab League meeting in Cairo (http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/6769 ), Saudi has still been trying via Samir Gaegae and Amin Gemayel during the Lebanon meetings that are taking place in Qatar now to get its Arab forces to go to Lebanon. How much clearer can Saudi Arabia be by having both US/Israeli agents request in front of all present Arab countries and media for “friendly” Arab forces to go to Lebanon to save the Siniora government? The meetings in Qatar are not over, but if I am not mistaken, Saudi Arabia, the US and Israel will not get their wish. We will find out in a few hours.
“By neutralizing the Saudi elements, Hezbollah indirectly helped Bush and his Jewish masters, since Hezbollah cleared the field for all-new israeli meddling in Lebanon.”
I don’t think so… because they are all working in collusion. The Americans need a ‘bridge’ into Lebanon and they lost the Saudi one. I read somewhere lately an American suggesting that the US could use Egypt as a ‘bridge’ to smooth ties with Hezbollah. All I can say… is little do the Americans know. I find it interesting however that the US now is interested in speaking to Hezbollah. It seems that the US is discovering that it backed the wrong horse.
Iran is gone
Iraq is gone
Gaza is gone
Lebanon… is on its way
Others too are on their way…
US clout in the Middle East diminishes by the minute…. But then again, Israel will be there until it’s 120 years old!! So the US can always depend on its Israeli ‘close friend and ally’:)
Cherifa Sirry
Another 7/7 for the Limeys?
"..shut down ALL investigations into Al Yamamah bribery scandal within TEN DAYS, or the Saudis would start buying weapons from France."
Bandar also threatened Britian with another 7/7 attack, if they kept investigating the BAE scandal.
Greg Bacon
From AZ to Cherifa re Saudis in Lebanon
You make very impressive points, and I agree with all of them, except for one or two trivial details.
My post above was clumsy. I wrote it for Americans who think that Israel and the USA are the only outside powers that cause problems in Lebanon.
I did not mean to imply that British nationals were acting as agents in Lebanon. I suggested that the British were indirectly linked with the recent Lebanon situation, because BAE and the Saudis are linked by the slush fund.
You make a good point that Saniora would not have done anything without clearance from the USA and israel. Indeed the March 14 alliance’s decision to destroy Hezbollah’s communications could not have been any surprise to the Bush regime or his handlers.
Why then is Bush angry with BAE and the British government? Maybe BAE officials were doing unauthorized things with CIA / Mossad slush fund money held in offshore banks.
Concerning the outside influence on Lebanon, you suggested this order of priority . . . the USA, Israel & then Saudi Arabia. I would put israel first, since the USA has no strategic interests in Lebanon, other than to please israel. The USA and international banks provide the money, but the israelis apply it.
The Saudi angle, as I see it, is based on greed. The Saudis want to get rich by rebuilding Lebanon on Saudi terms. They want to set up new casinos, resorts, shipping companies, and so on, but first they must get rid of Hezbollah. The USA and international banks could get rich by rebuilding Lebanon, but they are only interested in pleasing Jews. Hence Saniora has dispensed little of the money he got when he went to France with his hand out. Saniora is following the standard USA / zionist practice of starving the Lebanese people, so the people will submit to outside control.
You are correct about Hariri being a frequent visitor to Arabia. My post made it seem (incorrectly) that Harari suddenly got a bright idea.
"In one of his speeches, Bashar el Assad accused the Arabs (and he meant Mubarak and the Saudi King) of being “half-men” for not taking a clear stand with Hezbollah. Bashar apologized later, but the Saudi king just can’t forget… or is using this as an excuse to cover up for his ambitions in Lebanon…"
Yes, al-Saudi family is very similar to the zionists. Both are extremely arrogant. Both have long memories. Both will seek revenge if they feel they are insulted in any way. Both fear that one day the masses will get rid of them -- except in Arabia, the al-Saud family fears it will be Arabians that get rid of them.
"Regarding the Rafiq Hariri assassination, I don’t think that the Mossad alone is responsible for it. I think that the CIA played a major role, if not the main. It is said that the only active mobile lines in vicinity of the assassination area belonged to the suspicious US group called The Committee for a Free Lebanon, which is a CIA front group the Committee to Free Iraq or something of the sort… I can’t quite remember was the Iraq one was called."
Perhaps the CIA helped fund the assassination, but I still think Mossad did it. I regard the CIA as a bunch of idiots who do not know their way around Lebanon without israeli help. They can't even speak Arabic, and they don't trust their Arab operatives. All they can do is provide money in the hope that an assassination goes well.
Today's CIA is utterly demoralized. Countless CIA employees were purged when Bush seized power, because the employees did not agree with Bush’s “facts.” The current CIA leader, Michael Hayden, disagrees with the CIA’s own National Intelligence Estimate regarding Iranian nuclear weapons.
No one is safe inside the CIA, unless they are Jewish. The Bush regime exposed CIA operative Valerie Plame because Plame’s husband, Ambassador Wilson, exposed Bush’s lies about Saddam Hussein getting “yellowcake” (uranium ore) from Nigeria. Valerie Plame was only the tip of the iceberg. Many CIA operatives have been purged.
Perhaps people outside the USA don’t realize that today’s CIA is a mere shadow of what it once was. When Bush seized power, Defense Secretary Rumsfeld made sure the Pentagon started handling most of the CIA’s duties. Rumsfeld reduced the CIA to mere errand boys that run around grabbing people for “extraordinary rendition.” CIA agents helped torture prisoners in Iraq, but the U.S. Army took over much of the torture duties. The CIA does not run the Guantanamo prison; the U.S. Navy does. Even the CIA’s infamous School of the Americas (a training school for death squads) has been shut down. The U.S. military now trains death squads.
In the past, the CIA toppled democracies and installed puppet dictators that supported U.S. corporate interests. Today, “regime change” is easily done through “free trade” agreements that saddle entire nations with debt. The World Bank, the IMF, and international bankers do much of the duties once done by the CIA.
It’s true that CIA fronts such as the “National Endowment for Democracy” continue to meddle in the affairs of Venezuela and other nations, but today the meddling comes from many sources, not just the CIA. For example, the Albert Einstein Institute and the CATO Institute provide money for the opposition to Hugo Chavez. These organizations are funded by corporations and foundations independently of the CIA.
On a different note, when I claim that Mossad orchestrated the Rafiq Hariri assassination, I use the word “Mossad” as a blanket term for all israeli covert operations. Many israeli operations are performed by Shin Bet, or by branches of the israeli military.
"Hariri Junior was the ‘natural candidate’ for coming prime minister of Lebanon. The fact that his father was assassinated and that the world community blamed it on Syria and Hezbollah only made him stronger… although in reality the man is a wimp and not too bright."
Agreed!
"Like his father, Hariri junior is a Saudi citizen and of course Saudi Arabia’s ‘man’ in Lebanon."
Good point.
"Hariri Junior is a Sunni, and the Lebanese Prime Minister has to be a Sunni, acording to the Lebanese constitution. He was born backed with Saudi money and will die this way. Junior didn’t need to make any effort to get Saudi support. He is owned by Saudi Arabia and represents Saudi / Sunni clout in Lebanon. When the Saudis called on their citizens lately to leave Lebanon because of the instable situation (the Saudis created), the Lebanese called on Junior to leave because he was a Saudi. Still, Hariri junior remains popular among his movement, the Mustaqbal (Future). They treat him like Elvis."
Yes, the “Future Movement” is group of would-be playboys who all dream of being like Hariri Junior. They are stupid and selfish, but also dangerous, because they attract Lebanese youth. Hezbollah was wise to immediately shut down Saad Hariri’s TV station.
"The difference between Hariri Senior and Junior is that Senior didn’t want the resistance (Hezbollah) to be threatened in any manner, while Junior has been conspiring against the resistance from day one, perhaps due to his idiotic conviction that Hezbollah was somehow involved in his father’s assassination."
I don’t think Hariri Junior cares who bumped off his father. I see him as a little rich kid who dreams of power for himself, and wants Hezbollah out of the way. He wants to be a cool celebrity. He wants to be Elvis. He wants to be the sheik of Lebanon. He's a spoiled little punk who wants respect from the adults.
"Junior is very easily influenced and is surrounded by a gang of criminals such as Samir Geagea and Walid Jumblat. Hariri Senior also was against the US wish to open the Klei3at airport… which is now open, and which the USA uses to send weapons to the militias they sponsor…. Namely Hariri’s militia. When Hezbollah took control over Beirut in a few hours and with no trouble at all… and ousted all of Hariri’s militias out of their quarters, confiscating their guns and handing both to the army, the US was furious because it had spent millions and millions on them, only to find that Hezbollah grabbed them with ease."
Excellent points!!!
"I must admit, Hezbollah took over Beirut so professionally! It was a site to see. They also handed over Beirut to the Lebanese army once they had unarmed all the militias… which the US and Saudi Arabia had been paying for."
Yes, Hezbollah played it beautifully. They were quiet and efficient, and took measures to prevent bloodshed (although a sniper connected with March 14 gunned down that woman). Hezbollah was joined by Lebanon’s labor unions, which had set up roadblocks because Saniora won’t give them a decent wage.
I think the Lebanese people fear the unknown. Most of them want Saniora gone, but non-Shiities worry about what might happen if Hezbollah takes control. Will the casinos be shut down? Will Israel attack again? Will Syria move in? Will Saudi meddling increase? Will the USA cut off all Lebanese banks, as the USA has done to Iranian and Syrian banks? And so on.
"The March 14th Forces imagined that they could ‘out-live’ Hezbollah and the opposition if they just hang on in long enough, but they were wrong. Everybody knew it except for they and their supporters, who were all swimming against the tide."
Yes Hezbollah has perfected the art of patience. It reminds me of the U.S. adventure in Vietnam. Ho Chi Minh, the leader of the North Vietnamese, preached patience-patience-patience. He convinced the North Vietnamese that they would achieve victory by simply surviving.
"Who is most interested in maintaining Saniora’s legitimacy? I say it’s the USA. Saniora is their man."
Oh definitely. And Saad Hariri is the Saudi’s man – or at least, Hariri wants to be,
"Restoring Fouad el Siniora’s legitimacy was I think and American/Israeli ambition… and also an Arab puppet government ambition. After all those governments don’t want to see themselves in Siniora’s shoes."
Agreed.
"The Americans need a ‘bridge’ into Lebanon and they lost the Saudi one."
The US / Saudi / Israeli goals in Lebanon are allied, but I think these forces sometimes squabble among themselves. During the Suez Crisis of 1956, the USA was so angry with France and England for conspiring with the Israelis (without telling the USA) that the USA threatened to crash the British currency. This forced the French, British, and Israelis to back off.
The ultimate master, as I see it, is israel, not the USA. What other nation could murder Americans on the USS Liberty, and then receive an apology from the USA?
Maybe you’d have to live in the USA to fully understand that Jews own and control almost everything in the USA.
"US clout in the Middle East diminishes by the minute…. But then again, Israel will be there until it’s 120 years old!! So the US can always depend on its Israeli ‘close friend and ally’"
Yes, but if the USA collapses, or several Arab governments are overthrown, then israel will vanish.
By the way, I believe that israel absolutely #ff0000">hates and despises the USA, through a phenomenon I call “dependence resentment.” An evil child who cannot survive without Mommy hates the Mommy, and thinks Mommy is a whore and an idiot. The constant israeli fear is that Mommy (the U.S. masses) might one day wake up. This is why israelis spend so much time cultivating alliances with China, who will be their new Mommy. If Jews have to leave Palestine, they will swarm to China. The Chinese are incredibly naïve regarding zionism.
Fortunately when Jews leave Palestine, then non-Jews will take over all those “settlements." All the infrastructure is already in place, and Palestine will become a fully-functioning nation very quickly.
AAZ
I more or less agree with what you say. The reason I put the US ahead of Israel is that the US is the financial support… and the US is also far from being innocent or blind as to what is happening. As Hezbollah and Iran describe it, it is 'Ras el Af3a'.I do however agreed that the brains are the Israelis be it in Israel or in the US. Just look at how they are playing the American presidential election.
You are also right about the cia and languages. I really wonder how you can get real intelligence when you can’t even speak languages… and US intel has been fully dependent on Israelis who do speak Arabic to gather for them their intel. Result is that everything the US sees is through Israeli filters. However, there has been a clear lack of American positive will towards the Arab world… and that, combined with US financing of occupation after occupation is not to be forgotten just because the US was naïve enough to fall for everything Israelis say.
As for what I said here:
US clout in the Middle East diminishes by the minute…. But then again, Israel will be there until it’s 120 years old!! So the US can always depend on its Israeli ‘close friend and ally’"
I was only joking of course when mentioning that the US will have Israel for another 120 years! That was one of what George Bush’s favorite sentences during his last trip to the Middle East. He stupidly imagines that Israel will live to be 120… and told told the Knesset… then the ahole came to Egypt and repeated the same thing. Of course Israel will be long gone. Even Israelis give it about another 20 years. The US is collapsing and Israel in spite of US help is also collapsing from the inside because money doesn’t solve everything. Don’t worry AAZ, I was only joking with that comment!!
Cherifa Sirry