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Information Clearing House Publisher Threatened

Ed note: I've said it here before - get a gun.

Information Clearing House Publisher Threatened

  • Aug. 7th, 2008 at 8:27 AM
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Mike Whitney – Fly by News August 6, 2008

My friend Tom Feeley is in Big trouble. He runs the web site informationclearinghouse.info which updates "news you won't find in the corporate media" every day. The site is strongly anti-war.

Tom has gotten his share of death threats over the years, but what happened this week is a lot more serious.

Two days ago, Tom's wife found three well dressed men in their kitchen. The man who did all the talking, told Tom's wife (I won't give her name) that Tom must "Stop what he is doing on the Internet, NOW!" As crazy as it sounds, he pulled back his lapel and showed her a gun of some kind which she could not identify. Like I said, Tom has been threatened before, but nothing like this. 4 years ago, he was in a parking lot at Long's Drug store in Southern California and when he tried to open his door to get out, a man in a car next to him opened his door at precisely the same time which prevented Tom from getting out. Then, a 40-ish year old man got out of the passenger side of the vehicle and approached Tom saying, "You need to stop what you are doing on the web".

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informationclearinghouse.info is classic misinformation in the vein of Noam Chompsky. Basically, information clearing house is exactly that - an information redistribution center for ultra liberal brain washed believers. So why would anybody threaten someone like this? These is no original research or insights. Just a liberal headline aggitator. Not very dangerous. Just like MP.

"Dress rehearsal" nuclear attack drill in San Francisco August 16th

7/7 had a training exercise the same day, 9/11 had a training exercise the same day.

What rock heve you been hiding under LAM?

ICH runs hard hitting anti-zionist articles by the very best, such as James Petras. What's more, the liberals that are attracted to their progressive content end up being exposed to a far broader spectrum of debate in the commentery than they would ever encounter at the censored commondreams type sites. Hasbara trolls work the ICH threads incessantly and went into a frenzy concurrent with the shutting down of various pro-Palestinian blogs and iraq-war.ru. ICH draws a huge and diverse readership.

atheo

I suppose that you could see them as providing a service-but it is a very limited one at that. I have not followed anything that they (ICH) have said in years. They were big pushers of Chompsky back then. Has that position has changed? They also pushed Robert Fisk's work- This the guy that after covering the Middle East all of his career now questions the 911 attacks 6 YEARS AFTER THE FACT. Why should I listen to anyone so far behind the learning curve? Last and least- Marc Parent- you called me a shill prove it. My gripe with your work- Mr. parent is superficial. There is no insight. In fact, I get more insight from reading the ingredients disclosure on a cereal box then your MILLIONS OF POST REGARDING SOME WELL ESTABLISHED HEADLINE. MY PROOF JUST START COUNTING YOUR POSTS. The proof is in the POSTINGS.

If Tom of ICH has been and is being threatened by goons, I believe what he says.

ICH is a fine site that has many excellent stories and news bits you won't find on CNN or FUXED News.

Anyone who writes blogs that are critical of Israel's homicidal ethnic cleansing of Palestine or dares to say that the Bush/Cheney Junta is illegal and murderous has received threats on their blog, this bozo included.

So why wouldn't they take it one step further and send MOSSAD hit teams to take out someone who doesn't kiss Israeli ass?

Israel has proven time and again in the past that the way they like to deal with perceived problems is to put a bullet thru the problem.

Why would they change now?

Greg Bacon

I find that type of information useful and preventative, given their propensity for staging event to coincide with drills.

These assholes usually pick some esoteric significant date for these things. In the silicon land of bits and bytes, 8/16/8 might rank on it's own, or it's binary 00010000 00001000 00010000.

It's a date and time that bears watching, mid-Olympics to take the focus off China and put it where hey want it, back on fear and terror.

so long as you see past the spin and smoke. However, the majority of people visiting are not that attentive and therefore it merely re-enforces established misconceptions. I guess will will have to disagree on this point. Cheers Latin

McCain calls for trolls

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Attention, LAM

We can always depend on LAV to get the blood boiling around here.

Rhiannon

people here are calling LAV a shill??  wtf

  1. To act as a shill for (a deceitful enterprise).
  2. To lure (a person) into a swindle.
  3. To act as a spokesperson or promoter

Who is the next shill?  Anyone who dissagrees with someones view?

please dont make ad hom attacks.

thank you.

Some people forget that the majority are still behind the eightball when it comes to the truth about the terror state. ICH enlightens clueless antiwar leftists that have been slow on the uptake, which is extremely important.

Writers like Robert Fisk have their place, despite their ignorance vis a vis 9/11.  Fisk's articles are good for exposing Israeli atrocities and calling attention to the evil of Zionism. It's illogical to assume that Tom Feeley is promoting Fisk's view of 9/11 simply because he publishes his articles about Zionist crimes.

ICH - like Marc Parent - publishes a lot of material, carefully chosen based on the information presented therein, and occasionally you'll come across an article in which the holohoax myth is referenced, or something else you don't agree with. But is that 'misdirection'? Does it mean that Tom Feeley and Marc Parent are "shills"?

No, Latin's not a 'shill'. He's just a purist. I can understand that. But it's silly, paranoid and counterproductive to sling arrows at those on your own side, fighting the same fight you are.

I and many others at TiU have spoken with Skype to Latin many times. He is NOT a shill, he views the conspiracy through logical induction without the benifit of the many years of research that many of us have done. From personal experience, I can attest to the fact that if one supplies Latin with hard facts concerning a certain subject, he will reassess his current position on whatever topic.

..come to think of it, that shadow's been following me for as long as i can remember!! it might be a shill, lol!!

Everyone's gonna have a variety of thoughts, for better or worse. It's nice to be able to communicate, and figure out what's what, without being told by the what to think.

My gripe against Parent is that his posts are a retread of articles that have questionable sources.

    For example, Parent and I disagree on Alex Jones as a credible source.  I have asked MP to elaborate why he thinks that AJ information makes for good research.  Lets just say that we disagree.

      Moreover, I believe certain websites are idea- holding pens. Information Clearing House comes to mind when I say that. Now EVERYONE HERE AT WUFYS IS PAST Information Clearing House stage of understanding of the problem.  So why post endless posts from these sources? Who is the target audience?  Does anyone here really benefit from Roberts Fisks analysis?  I am asking for Marc Parent to rAISE THE BAR ON HIS RESEARCH.  MP had over 17,000 posts on his old blog!  Where is the insight? The original thoughts? 

Maybe this is to much to ask for but expect more from the Zionist resistance movement.

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My gripe against Parent is that his posts are a retread of articles that have questionable sources.

    For example, Parent and I disagree on Alex Jones as a credible source.  I have asked MP to elaborate why he thinks that AJ information makes for good research.  Lets just say that we disagree.

      Moreover, I believe certain websites are idea- holding pens. Information Clearing House comes to mind when I say that. Now EVERYONE HERE AT WUFYS IS PAST Information Clearing House stage of understanding of the problem.  So why post endless posts from these sources? Who is the target audience?  Does anyone here really benefit from Roberts Fisks analysis?  I am asking for Marc Parent to rAISE THE BAR ON HIS RESEARCH.  MP had over 17,000 posts on his old blog!  Where is the insight? The original thoughts? 

Maybe this is to much to ask for but expect more from the Zionist resistance movement.

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They are part and parcel of the blog itself.

CCNWON is an excellent site that obviously takes some time and dedication to put together each day.

Exposing people to uncomfortable truths is what Mr. Parent does and from there, hopefully, the old grey matter will start coming back to life.

Those that get a bit edgy or nervous when reading CCNWON probably should go back to CNN and FUXD News.

Greg Bacon

Please Bacon! Just look at the MP sources- AP, Reuters and the rest of the mainstream shills.  Look at the links.

support for my claims http://mparent7777-1.livejournal.com/1185236.html http://mparent7777-1.livejournal.com/1184868.html http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/7/92954/94578/369/551856 http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1009504.html These are direct links from MP site for 8/7

..even mainstream media has been known to tell part of the truth now and then, and we should be able to put it all in perspective, now that we're so enlightened. Then we can discuss what's really going on.

The only issue i might have with Marc's posts, is that he could copy the whole article into his blog, this one, or just link straight to the articles.

Many of them have been interesting and relevant.

For example the cbs 60-minutes propaganda about the iaf; by itself it's somewhat of an interesting brainwash video, and all it needs is reality to be written next to it, then the truth becomes very apparent.

I and many others at TiU have spoken with Skype to Latin many times. He is NOT a shill, he views the conspiracy through logical induction without the benifit of the many years of research that many of us have done. From personal experience, I can attest to the fact that [...]

Firstly, I agree that Latin's not a shill. My whole point is, and has long been, that this paranoid, reactionary 'shill' affliction that grips the anti-Zionist scene has every second motherfucker pointing the finger and accusing each other of the same, boring, predictable bullshit based on the most frivolous of issues, and it's ridiculous. I consider LAV a respected comrade and a mate, so no one has to rush to his defense.

My gripe against Parent is that his posts are a retread of articles that have questionable sources.

Latin, surely you understand the difference between endorsing an article's (or website's) content and republishing that content for its interest value. For example, look at this article posted here by myself some months ago. The interest value of pieces like that is in the fascinatingly backward, twisted logic of the Zionist mind, as morbid and trivial as it may be compared to other more important info. Why write articles about traitorous, treasonous Zionist parasites when they're writing such good shit themselves?

Napolean Bonaparte said, "never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake." Rather, let's assist them with their humongous fuck ups wherever possible. Kinda like literary Aikido, the Japanese martial art which hinges on using your opponent's strength and momentum against him. Here's a wonderful case in point. It can be difficult to put your foot in your mouth and keep it there without the help of others sometimes.

For example, Parent and I disagree on Alex Jones as a credible source.  I have asked MP to elaborate why he thinks that AJ information makes for good research.  Lets just say that we disagree. 

If you look closely at which of Jones' articles Marc Parent chooses to post (or those of his sidekicks - the Watson brothers, Kurt Nimmo et al), you'll notice that they're almost invariably the innocuous, accurate-ish ones, not the dodgy 'Israel didn't do 9/11 and you're an anti-semite if you say they did, but we forgive you because you're probably just another victim of the Arab-controlled mainstream media' ones. What he chooses to republish, in my view, is clearly indicative of a conscious effort to avoid putting out disinfo.

Let me be completely candid with you for a sec, just to illustrate how fucking out-of-control-whacko this whole McCarthyesque shill-o-phobia vibe has become at WUFYS and elsewhere within the anti-Zionist community - I've actually censored myself here, changed my mind about posting certain shit, and gone out of my way not to reference perfectly good information, all out of some sort of ill-conceived, peer pressure-induced, pussy-footed desire to avoid being fingered as a 'shill' for promoting 'disinfo sites'. I bet at least half of the rest of you have been influenced in the same way by this new blogging-on-eggshells bullshit to some degree, but few will admit it. Either way, the fact that I've even contemplated being intimidated into self-censorship is some sad shit indeed.

And I don't buy it anyway that even half of these shill accusations come from genuine suspicion on the part of the finger-pointer; I just think that most people find it easier to throw that epithet around in a generic, arbitrary fashion, and to respond to shill accusations with counter-accusations. Like 'no, you are', or 'it takes one to know one'. It's really quite pathetic and embarrassing sometimes.

I've had my share of conflicts here, but no one can accuse me of fueling the climate of fear or buying into the shillmania. If someone calls me a shill, I'll call them a dickhead or an idiot, not play the shill game and say shit I don't believe. By the way, I blame Smith and Hufschmid for the bulk of this reefer madness-style preoccupation with shills and suspicion and your-friends-are-all-guilty-until-proven-innocent shit. Who does this remind you of -

'Look at who this person links to. If he is sincere, why does he support liars, and yet ignore Smithers and Hooper?'

Now EVERYONE HERE AT WUFYS IS PAST Information Clearing House stage of understanding of the problem.  So why post endless posts from these sources? Who is the target audience?

I'm not past ICH, myself. I read my email newsletter every chance I get. If you don't get your news from sites like ICH, where do you get it from? How the fuck do you know what's going on without reading the news? Would you prefer an Internet without sites like ICH, Global Research, CrescentandCross, Uruknet, WRH and all the other anti-Zionist sites that fall into the shill catergory by way of their links to 'questionable websites'? And what is your idea of success anyway - making geniuses of the tiny minority of us who are 'past ICH' or converting total dumbarses into potentially angry anti-Zionists? Because that's what sites like ICH do, awaken dumbarses.

All sites have valuable info to help people wake up to unknown actualities, even we have use for them.  Sure some sites may have dissinfo from our perception, but if people go around to differenet sites and look at what different people are saying and what makes the most sense, they can develop a good bullshite-detector and suss out the good info from the bad in time.

Take what you can from the info out there and learn from it the best you can.  Not everyone can be on the same page as far as deprogramming or knowledge into what is dissinfo.  Mainstream news articles still have valuable info on them, it's just they use the dissinfo tactic of mixing in some truth with some lies and people accept the whole package because they recognize the truth and therefore accept the lies based on blind trust.  EH has done this with his delusional false rationality in accusing people of being agents, I think that is where it started for us anti-Z people.

Haaretz has good articles by the way ;)  Way better than Western media when it comes to current crimes of Israel (minus alternative media though)

Peace.

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