UPDATE: Bill FAILS - Yea 207 Nay 226 - America Stands Proud!!!

GO TO HELL, WALL STREET!!!

If this Bill passes - America is Over - Effective Immediately

This started out as a post in support Rep. Marcy Kaptur's stand against the bill and has transformed into a contemporaneous memorialization of who in congress took a stand against this treason and who in congress openly supports it.

Make no mistake, if this bill passes, America is officially over.

Effective immediately, its economy comes under the complete control of foreign and domestic international banks through their banking stooges in the Federal Reserve and the Treasury.

It's not clear yet whether or not it will pass. But, if it does, Americans must RAISE HELL until congress repeals this bill on behalf of the American people and their progeny.

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RELATED: Bloomberg Analyst: $700 Billion Bailout could balloon to $5 Trillion

Draft of so-called "Economic Stabilization Act of 2008"

Ten Reasons to Oppose the Wall Street Bailout

The Real Reason for the Bail-out Rush: The Fed is Going Under

The Federal Reserve's Board of Governors Incestuous Relations

WARNING: GRAPHIC! Controlled Demolition in Progress! WaMu implodes, JPMorgan devours carcass

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Rep. Kaptur of Ohio - America's Last Hope against Sweeping Financial Coup!!!

Rep. Marcy Kaptur from Ohio just may be America's Last Hope against the colossal financial coup d'etat that is currently underway in Congress.

Why is it that lately the people with the biggest proverbial balls in congress in fact don't have any!

I don't know where this woman was hiding or why she's not running for president of the United States, but this is as good as time as any to introduce her to readers of this blog and to the American people as the last hope this nation may have to avert certain death by fiat, under the auspices of the greatest criminal network the world has ever known.

Pass this video on to every living, breathing, thinking American you know and tell them to get off their fat sorry asses and do something to stop to this travesty before these financial criminals pound the last nails into America's coffin!!!

It's now or never! 2 pm at the Capitol!!!

Go Kaptur, Go!!!

It's high time that Americans showed their financial overlords who's the boss!!!

Submitted by qrswave on Mon, 2008-09-29 18:03

Balls!

People are pissed, and rightly so. Media blackout on Wall Street protests

More footage at the link above.

Crimes of Zion | Mon, 2008-09-29 12:08

The only other person I can think of in Congress that has them is Cynthia McKinney.

It's so crucial that Americans take time out of their day this morning to express their utter disgust and ardent opposition to this horrendous act of treason they're about to commit on behalf of these financial criminals!

I urge every American who reads this post to call in to Congress and demand that their representatives attend this meeting at HDA and take a stand against this high act of treason parading as a bill to save the American economy.

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 12:26
Nepos Libertas | Mon, 2008-09-29 12:29

important factor to consider...didn't know about the Tuesday deadline for hedge funds...

this conspiracy runs deep, very deep...

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 12:37

Disgusting gloating pigs. Kick them all out! (except for Ron Paul, Marcy Kaptur, Dennis Kucinich and few decent, patriotic and fiscally aware representatives. VoterBomb.com)

Nepos Libertas | Mon, 2008-09-29 12:47

Sure sounds like one, but that goes to show people that not all Jews are rapacious war mongers and not all Americans are greedy psychopaths.

BTW, McKinney is no longer in Congress. The ADL went after her tooth and nail in the last election and thru the use of massive campaign donations and their MSM media machine, got McKinney kicked out of Congress.

Greg Bacon | Mon, 2008-09-29 13:00

Bloomberg Analyst: $700 Billion Bailout Could Balloon to $5 Trillion

click to play the video clip on the right.

The founder of the firm who made the $5 trillion claim predicted Wall Street crash of 1987 a week before it occured.

We're in for a wild ride if the bailout bill passes with both House and Senate's "unanimous" rubber stamp.

Nepos Libertas | Mon, 2008-09-29 13:04

The article linked below will tell you the whole sordid affair. (Scroll down to "Tensions with AIPAC")

Fuck AIPAC. Staunchly Pro-Israel organizations should be banned in the U.S. for treason.

"Deconstructing Cynthia McKinney", 1999

Nepos Libertas | Mon, 2008-09-29 13:11

'Neutral' photo in NY Times article "Breakout reached in negotiations on bailout"

Digg caught the initial photo before the prompt change.

New York Times as the "paper of record" my ass. The editors are imbeciles at NYT building.

Nepos Libertas | Mon, 2008-09-29 13:24

the name I mean. Her biography says she's Polish-American. She says here:

We had relatives in what is now the nation of Ukraine, but in the Soviet Union, our uncles, who were sent to the gulag for over 20 years by Joseph Stalin. One died and one survived, miraculously, after 20 bitter years. So I think our family shares a deep personal understanding of what despotism and terror is.

Could be a Polish Jew, but whatever. She seems ok to me so far, called for an immediate cease-fire during the 2006 Lebanon war, voted against the Palestinian Anti-Terrorism Act of 2006, she's anti-NAFTA and anti-elite [youtube, youtube], and talks about working with the Lebanese community and Lebanese groups in two speeches I read. But like the rest she's anti-Hamas and therefore anti-democracy. Still, she's got balls on the bail-out thing and seems to be doing the right thing there.

Crimes of Zion | Mon, 2008-09-29 13:50

I just got off the phone with Rep. Kaptur's office.

The meeting was at 2pm yesterday and representatives are on the floor as we speak voting on this disastrous bill.

By 2pm today, it could be all over.

Something's gotta be done.

Does anyone know how we might find out about what happened at that meeting yesterday or at least know who attended?

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 13:59

Anti-Iraq and anti-Blackwater/AEGIS too.

Crimes of Zion | Mon, 2008-09-29 14:02

Various talking heads with the bullet proof hair, are telling the American public now on C-Span what a GREAT deal this Wall Street bailout is for us joe's and jill's.

Yes, and there is a Santa Claus, Virginia and his name is Uncle Sucker.

Greg Bacon | Mon, 2008-09-29 14:04

He's brilliantly point out how King Henry (Paulson) can buy ANY bad debt under the sun, among other unprecedented powers.

Thank God!

Stand by for more...

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 14:14

another opposed to this bill...no one has never seriously considered any alternative to this bill

"the vultures have now come home to roost!"

YEAH!

these people need our support!

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 14:16

"the largest corporate bail out in government history"

not as good as the last two, but at least he opposes it.

"there are men and women in congress that oppose the leviathon state"

if this bill passes Americans must raise hell until they repeal this shit.

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 14:20

and Dan Lungren too!

Asssholes!- your names will be on a long list of traitors come revolution!

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 14:24

of colossal proportions...unbelievable!

"this is a question of jobs" !!!

So he wants to hand oodles of money over to the same bankers who have shipped hundreds of millions of jobs overseas for the last fifty years!!!

This guy is SO DUMB, it's totally unbelievable!

Who the fuck elected this guy???

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 14:28

Lungren has to be one of the more despicable characters in the House and that's saying a lot.

He's comparing the Wall Street bailout to his time as a lifeguard saving kids.....yechhh.

He and his fellow traitors are responsible for getting in this mess and now they want us to bail them out.

They have the votes, but they probably want the vote to be almost unanimous, to show the sheeple that it's good medicine.

And of course, it's not about Wall Street greed, but about JOBS and how you won't have one if the Wall Street piggies don't get slopped on time.

Greg Bacon | Mon, 2008-09-29 14:30

four month cooling off period my ass!

stabilizing the financial system to whose benefit???

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 14:31

"essentially Mr. Paulson's bill to help his friends"

"same old story, going further down the road...cliff is getting steeper and steeper"

"we have a capital problem, not a liquidity problem in our banks"

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 14:33

"this bill will allow million dollar a month salaries to executives"

"We ask Congress no to rush, to hold appropriate hearings, and to carefully consider the right course of action"

['Wall street has effectively defeated any attempt to raise taxes.'

'It's absolutely impossible to draft a tax that targets only those banks responsible for the fiasco ...']

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 14:37

weak but at least he opposes it

believes  "main street and wall street are inextricably linked" (my ass) "this is not a matter of main street vs. wall street"

[taxpayers should not be asked to pay for bankers' losses]

"you can't borrow your way out of debt"!!!

(at least he's got that right)

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 14:40

"process is flawed"

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 14:45

When this looting of the public till is passed and it will, look for prices to go thru the roof.

I can barely afford health insurance now, when this crap hits the fan, inflation will take off and crush the average American's income.

DC must have the November vote rigged but good.

Look for poll reuslts on November 5 that defied all pollsters predictions.

And for Wall Street to come back and ask for another 700 billion.

Barney Frank's is leading the traitors, appropriate, since he graduated from the University of Israel, AKA Harvard.

Greg Bacon | Mon, 2008-09-29 14:46

unbelievable!

unless I heard him wrong, he talks about how bad the bill is - yet he plans to support it!!!

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 14:49

I downloaded Realplayer just to watch CSPAN (reinstalled Windows recently and wiped my hard drive) but the fucker still won't play. I'm pissed, missing out on all the fun.

Crimes of Zion | Mon, 2008-09-29 14:51

['all this bill is about more of the same...'

this came about as a result of monopoly control of the monetary system...

this has nothing to do with free market capitalism...

yet we're resorting now to promoting more and more government...

we've already pumped in $700 billion...this is going to destroy the dollar...destroy a worldwide economy

what we're doing today is going to make things much worse..]

I don't get it ..will he oppose it ???

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 14:52

calls for moratorium on foreclosures!

prohibit tax deductibility at corporations where exec pay exceeds 25 to 1 of workers!

good for her!

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 14:53

"if there's no credit nothing else matters"

I agree, asshole! So, let's cut out the middleman!!!

he's "hoping that some of the money will be returned to taxpayers...eventually"

fuck off, asshole.

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 14:56

all talk about how culpable wall street bankers are but nevertheless supports this fiasco!

calls it ['a measure to guarantee loans for average americans']..blah, blah, blah, blah

then why don't we cut out the middleman and save borrowers the interest they have to pay these blood suckers and the interest taxpayers must pay to bail these same cretins out!!!

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:00

one good thing to say about him

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:02

God help us.

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:04

to those who support the bill!

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:05

I called, faxed and e-mailed. The Congressional aide said she will relay the "urgent" message to the representative.

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Dear Representative [redacted],

I oppose the bill because it is irresponsible waste and abuse of our taxpayer money. Why should we reward corruption, greed, incompetence and mismanagement of their investments to force on the taxpayers like self-destructive gamblers?

Why should the profits be privatized, yet our losses are socialized? This is economic fascism at its most base. Let the irresponsible bankers and federal reserve people take a hike.

My name is [redacted, including location and zip code+4]

I sent the faxed letter detailing my opposition last week.

Your reputation will be impugned in negative publicity if you cast "YEA" for the [H.R. 3997] "Emergency Economic Stabilization Act" (under "Financial Markets") bill.

Thank you,

[initial]

Qrs, you can keep track of the representatives at Track.NoCashforTrash.org.

Nepos Libertas | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:06

if credit is the problem - nationalize the money supply, not wall street's fucking losses, asshole!

and he wants to increase our liability too by increasing FDIC insurance!

Unbelievable!

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:07

brought to you by your own fucking money, controlled by the financial lobby...

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:09

calls them "wall street money grabbers"!!!

"NYC fat cats expect joe-six pack to buck it up"

"time for them to pay and be responsible for their own misconduct!"

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:11

you would think that someone representing the people of Michigan, perhaps the most seriously pummeled by these bastards, would have even one iota of courage to stand up for them against these vultures.

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:14

reluctantly, but at least she opposes it.

she calls for consideration of alternatives.

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:17

going by your comments, Q (Ron Paul is against). If that ratio is upheld across the board, Wall St won't have the votes.

Crimes of Zion | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:20

[bill is still essentially the same trickle down plan]

[other plans can work better, but Bush and his minions insist it will work]

calls it a "financial surge"

[the execs on wall street are still going to get millions]

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:21

"by definition we are picking winners and losers in assets"

"we are collapsing this country into a recession"

"we are ending the Reagan era if we vote for this"

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:23

F- that self-contradictory bitch!

Nepos Libertas | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:25

she's voting yes because "she cares about mainstreet"!!!

Ditz!

She's so fucking clueless!!!

She complains that homeowners were defrauded, yet she wants to give them at minimum $700 billion to pay for bankers' losses!!! Unfuckingbelievable!

She fell for the BS, hook, line, and sinker!

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:26

to that moron waters to continue to blather!

unbelievable. totally unbelievable.

"let's prosecute them later, but in the meantime, let's give them $700 billion!"

fucking idiot!

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:28

thank God, someone close to my district that has some brains and courage!

[we must not reward the same people who brought this crisis upon us]

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:30

Whatever these racketeering white collar crooks are upto, it is a deliberate 'collapse' (read: huge scam) that was pre-meditated at the same time as 9/11. (read: traitors)

CoZ, you might try Real Alternative to play .rm files

http://www.free-codecs.com/real_Alternative_download.htm

Grim Reaper | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:33

but he's the first one to present a coherent position, which I'm sure can be refuted by someone whose read the bill...

starts off describing the bill as "all about private gain and public risk"

but then points to

section 134:

[shall submit a legislative proposal to require bankers to pay back to the treasury]

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:36

Unitedliberty.org - Liveblogging the bailout debate

God, some representatives complain yet they vote YEA for the bill. They are truly imbecilic and perfidious.

Especially Rep. Maxine Water-CA, her reasoning made my jaw drop in disbelief at her continuous self-contradiction!!!

Nepos Libertas | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:36

[we need private, not public capital]

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:38

what a load of BS!!!

totally ignores the fact that these fuckers reap all the gain while we the people shoulder all the risk!

why the fuck should they be the ones to benefit in the billions from our economy if we are then asked to suck up all the losses???

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:41

INDUSTRY????

And she contradicts this position with her voting YEA for the bailout because she cares about Main Street???

Nepos Libertas | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:42

the premise of this intervention is that free market has failed...

"those who believe that they can direct and control the market's invisible hand will eventually be slapped by it"

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:42

votes no, reluctantly

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:44

[one handout after another...]

"When the federal government buys [these assets] they immediately become worthless"

very emphatic speaker - good for him!

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:46

praises Frank and Pelosi...

but opposes the bill

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:48

One rep said that 600,000 US jobs have been lost since the Bush/Cheney Junta took over in the bloodless 2000 coup d'état.

WRONG.

There have been over 3 MILLION manufacturing jobs alone offshored to China and India, etc.

Now, someon idiot is threatening seniors with the loss of their savings accounts.

Just man up here, Congress and put on a mask and stick a gun in our faces, we'll have more respect for you that way.

Greg Bacon | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:52

["we've added a hundred pages to the bill"]...blah, blah, blah

again, he talks about "credit drying up" - idiot!!!

Cut out the middleman, you moron!!! and lend it to borrowers directly, INTEREST FREE!

This isn't a "Herbert Hoover moment"! This is a Hoovermatic moment! and that's the sound of our hard earned money beind sucked out from our pockets by greedy moneylenders!!!

thanks to you, you asshole!

How dare you talk about conscience! you have no conscience!

Go to hell!!!

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:53

[no criminal penalties...

no enforcement provisions...

no listing of where the first dollars will go...

no guarantee that the people who need this money most are going to get the help that they need..]

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:55

['overlooks more fundamental issues like accounting rules... in general does not address a number of other issues...']

"we are falling into a trap of sequential decision-making"

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 15:58

liar, liar, pants on fire!!!

your name will be on the long list of jokers who will pay for their treason come revolution!

Barney Frank, you asshole, you're on the top of the list!

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:00

[Paulson did not define what the real problem is...

...failure of process...this doesn't solve the problem]

"It's nice to take a bullet to save the team, but this doesn't solve the problem"

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:03

Anyone know how much interest the banksters are going to be paying on that slush fund?

I haven't seen any figures, so my guess is that NO interest will be charged.

Sweet deal, if you can get it.

They should structure it like a house loan, where you spend most of the first 15 years paying off the interest before taking a bite out of the principal.

Greg Bacon | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:06

what do you expect - he's the Budget Committee Chairman - praises Bernanke, that banker of bankers' stooge

["bill will cost substantially less than $700 billion"]

liar, liar, pants on fire!!!Analyst predicts bill could cost up to $5 Trillion!!!

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:07

It's a grant!!! to buy whatever toxic assets Paulson wants us to buy!

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:09

Decries bipartisanship...blah, blah, blah!

asshole. hope you get beat up on your way home!

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:10

Sounds like this was cooked up by the Sons of Khazaria.

An open-ended grant with hardly any strings attached?

Where can I get one of those?

Greg Bacon | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:12

Arrgh!!! this lady needs to be bitch-slapped!

Greg - the question we need to ask is how much will we have to pay to borrow the $700 billion they propose to hand over to Wall Street???

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:14

"this isn't legislation, this is extortion!"

"with one stroke of the pen congress will expand our debt by another trillion"

"foreign banks get special treatment...at the expense of the American taxpayer"

"this is so embarassing it turns the stomach of most Americans"

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:16

'Requested file not found. The link you followed may be outdated or innaccurate.

rtsp://video1.c-span.org/encoder/livedr.rm?embed '

Same thing I got when I had Realplayer.

Thanks anyway though.

Crimes of Zion | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:18

this woman is brilliant - she's got all the points down packed!

"today's challenge is a credit and housing crisis, not a liquidity crisis"

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:19

"the people that made the mess should clean up the mess"

"there were three market reforms that could have taken this bill from $700 billion to $100 billion..."

"taxpayers shouldn't pay for this private money should pay for this"

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:21

Sorry you missed most of it.

Ustream.tv broadcast of C-SPAN debate

Nepos Libertas | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:22

Thanks bro!

Crimes of Zion | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:30

"[she's] proud of the debate"

of course, she takes the opportunity to bash Bush and his cronies...

calls Bernanke "one of the most foremost authorities on the subject of the Great Depression"

claims that [this disaster "snuck up on us...silently"]...my ass!!! lying bitch!

she's sooo proud of Barney!

OMG, someone hand me a barf bag!

She's so clueless that she needs people to tell her that America must update and repair its infrastructure!!! And she's the speaker of the House!

She's so proud of her weak little  5-yr "party is over" provision...

God help us.

If this passes, America is over, effective immediately.

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:36

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Longest speech in the whole debate - because she's House Speaker, she blabbles long-windedly while the bailout opponents get a measly minute to make their cases. FU Frank!

Nepos Libertas | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:38

["fix the accounting rules"]

["stop naked short-selling"]

"try these practical solutions before we pull the trigger on a $700 billion bailout"

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:40

NOW, it's crystal clear where zionists stand.

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:43

craven twit.

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:44

I second that Thank You, NL

Couldn't get Realplayer working either, so i bookmarked this =)

Neat listening to this live in another tab, while typing.

..rahm emmanuhell.. ouch.

Kucinich speaks the truth.

Grim Reaper | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:46

If we only had just a few more good men and women like Kucinich and Kaptur!

Americans must act!!!

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:47

good for him - emphatically opposes this BS!

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Nepos Libertas | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:48

NY is led by BAFOONS!!!

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:49

not clear..i missed it..doesn't sound like he supports it.

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:50

asshole!

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:52

"market to market rules are destroying the market"

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:53

Opposes; called it "selling paper".

Grim Reaper | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:54

self-congratulatory BS...I don't know how he pulls this shit over on his constituents...

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:54

cannot stomach it! Yeah!

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:55

There's no way that they've done the proper research.

This better not pass.

Grim Reaper | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:56

uninformed moron!!! I can't believe I shook his hand!

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:57

he's voting for it because he's afraid of not acting.

he's either as dumb as a doorknob, or as corrupt as a two-bit criminal

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 16:59

["she's not here to help the banks"]...blah, blah, blah...

hailing from CT, what a lying bitch!

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 17:01

"these are not valueless assets"

"this is not about wall street. It's about main street."

LYING, SON OF A BITCH!!!

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Crimes of Zion | Mon, 2008-09-29 17:05

"this bill protects taxpayers..." blah, blah, blah...

you bet the whole world is looking at us!

And just wait and see what happens if you assholes pass this shit!

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 17:07

"When the market goes up, wall street cleans up; when the market goes down, main street gets cleaned out".

Then he votes Yae.

BOO

What's all this bullshit about 'partisan' when it's an elephant-ass!!? What's with the main st. and wall st. crap; what are we tourists asking for directions?

Grim Reaper | Mon, 2008-09-29 17:12

...justifies his treasonous support for this bill by pointing to the dire consequences of failing to support it.

Complete. Fucking. Asshole.

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 17:16

for Hoyer's Banking buddies of course!

You royal son of a bitch!

You'll get yours when the time of reckoning comes, which it must and will.

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 17:21

He's talking as if it already passed!

What did they pre-count the votes already?

(sic)

Grim Reaper | Mon, 2008-09-29 17:25

Nine minutes remaining.

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 17:34

Looks like YEA is gaining momentum unless an influx of NAY come in to pace past YEA vote.

Communistic Democrats and Fascist Republicans who vote YEA will face justice.

Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Paper no. 28:

If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state. In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair. The usurpers, clothed with the forms of legal authority, can too often crush the opposition in embryo. The smaller the extent of the territory, the more difficult will it be for the people to form a regular or systematic plan of opposition, and the more easy will it be to defeat their early efforts. Intelligence can be more speedily obtained of their preparations and movements, and the military force in the possession of the usurpers can be more rapidly directed against the part where the opposition has begun. In this situation there must be a peculiar coincidence of circumstances to insure success to the popular resistance.

The obstacles to usurpation and the facilities of resistance increase with the increased extent of the state, provided the citizens understand their rights and are disposed to defend them. The natural strength of the people in a large community, in proportion to the artificial strength of the government, is greater than in a small, and of course more competent to a struggle with the attempts of the government to establish a tyranny. But in a confederacy the people, without exaggeration, may be said to be entirely the masters of their own fate. Power being almost always the rival of power, the general government will at all times stand ready to check the usurpations of the state governments, and these will have the same disposition towards the general government. The people, by throwing themselves into either scale, will infallibly make it preponderate. If their rights are invaded by either, they can make use of the other as the instrument of redress. How wise will it be in them by cherishing the union to preserve to themselves an advantage which can never be too highly prized!

“If the people knew what we had done, they would chase us down the street and lynch us.” President George H.W. Bush to journalist Sarah McClendon, December 1992

No shit, Bush Senior. You were part of the conspiracy to kill JFK. Eventually you pay the ultimate price for treason.

Nepos Libertas | Mon, 2008-09-29 17:36

especially the ones who are so damn stupid that they don't even understand the implications of their stupid ass yea vote!

123-116

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 17:36
Grim Reaper | Mon, 2008-09-29 17:37
Nepos Libertas | Mon, 2008-09-29 17:38

supporting a traitorous bill! America will never forget!!!

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 17:40

GOGOGOGOGO! DEFEAT THE FUCKING BILL!

Nepos Libertas | Mon, 2008-09-29 17:41

But, they're still counting! WTF?

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 17:44

Buy what you need to survive.

The Revolution is NOW.

Grim Reaper | Mon, 2008-09-29 17:46

Kick out the assholes who vote YEA!

Begin the grassroots campaign to oust the traitorous shitheads!

Voterbomb.com

Nocashfortrash.org

Nepos Libertas | Mon, 2008-09-29 17:46

WOOOO_HOOOOOOO!

Crimes of Zion | Mon, 2008-09-29 17:47

Fuck Yeah!!!

5-600 pt drop in the Dow Jones! boo-hoo.

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 17:49

They will however: try to fuck us royally, one way or another.

Grim Reaper | Mon, 2008-09-29 17:51

This is the result of Congressmen being afraid to return to their districts after voting for looting the Treasury.

Everyone that voted YES needs to be targeted, and they need to be voted out too!

Claymoremind | Mon, 2008-09-29 17:51

OMG - what a relief.

Now, I can go on with the things I need to do today.

I almost had a heart attack.

:)

Ciao, friends!

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"Money" has no value - people do.

qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 17:52

The DOW is down, tough shit.

That's what happens when you gamble away your money on dodgy investments and use grifters for your management.

FUCK the DOW.

If the shit really hits the fan, then for once in the last 79 years, Wall Street will get a feeling what it's like to experience the pain of living on fractional money.

CNN is singing the blues, with Josh Levs and Susan Lisoviscs or something leading the hanky party.

Go back to Khazaria, the land you truly love and leave America alone.

Greg Bacon | Mon, 2008-09-29 17:52

Fuck the traitors. It's not over yet. They are going to repeat. Bush-Cheney-Paulson-Bernanke may declare martial law soon!

REVOLUTION!

Nepos Libertas | Mon, 2008-09-29 17:53

Go shopping, lol.

Grim Reaper | Mon, 2008-09-29 17:56

Who is the lone "not-voting" congressmember?

We have acquired the victory FOR THE PEOPLE, but the battle is not over yet. The traitors will find a way to fuck America over in a Fascist coup d'etat.

The Democrats who voted for the bill are officially designated "liberal fascists."

Nepos Libertas | Mon, 2008-09-29 17:58

This ain't over, the banksters are going to keep voting on this until they get it the way they want to.

Right now, the vote is being held open so members can change their mind and vote for Empire.

Look for all sorts of monkey business in the financial sector the next couple of days, with the Fed and Treasury Dept, working in collusion with Wall Street, to crash a few more financial institutions to scare the people.

Update: One vote already changed from Nay to Yea.

House is breaking its own rules regarding the vote.

Greg Bacon | Mon, 2008-09-29 18:03


Sell Mortimer SELL!!!!!

Buy ammo while you can - here comes martial law and canceled elections!

Claymoremind | Mon, 2008-09-29 18:06

but, for certain - this is not over.

Even if this bill fails utterly, they will come back with a vengeance and those who voted nay will be coerced or enticed to support it.

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 18:09

From the RON PAUL Forums:

I don't usually read Kos, but this is the best summary I've found about what's going on with HR 3997. (from http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/20...299/215/614055 )

Quote:

Anyway, if you're scratching your head about how the bailout legislation, which was conceived over the weekend, ends up numbered H.R. 3997 when they're already well into the 7000s with House bills already (they're numbered in order of their introduction), the answer is that they're going back to a trick we've seen them use before -- taking an old bill that has passed one House but not both, and hollowing it out and replacing that text with the new stuff.

So H.R. 3997, an old tax bill that passed the House, bounced back and forth a few times after being amended, but was never passed in the same form by both houses, which means it's still available as a legislative vehicle. That means that technically, what's under consideration in the House today is an amendment to the Senate amendment to the House amendment to the Senate amendment to H.R. 3997.

Seriously.

Why? Because pretending that the bailout package is just a new amendment (in the nature of a substitute) for what now stands as the old body of H.R. 3997 means they can get expedited consideration on the House floor, plus be protected from a Republican motion to recommit [send back to committee, essentially killing the bill].
In addition to doing this to speed the bill through with fewer chances to kill it, I think they're also doing this to obfuscate their votes. It's a lot easier to look up online who voted for "HR 3997" than it is to look up "who voted for an amendment to the senate amendment to the house amendment to the senate amendment to HR 3997."

Every Congressman already has a vote on the record for the original version of HR 3997, which was originally "The Defenders of Freedom Tax Relief Act of 2007." It's purpose was "to provide tax relief and protections for military personnel." Of course now it's being amended to be something completely different and will have a completely separate vote for the amendment. This will make it much more difficult for the average citizen to sort through all of this and determine whether their congressman voted for the bill last year as originally intended to provide tax relief to members of the military, or voted this year to pass the bailout.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=159224

Here's what the original HR 3997 is about:

H.R. 3997: Defenders of Freedom Tax Relief Act of 2007
An Act to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide tax relief and protections for military personnel, and for other purposes.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-3997

Greg Bacon | Mon, 2008-09-29 18:11

Rather than make the poor and middle class bail out the banksters' wars and usury, make them pay for it themselves!!

Grim Reaper | Mon, 2008-09-29 18:17

The House has now passed an act to reconsider, revealing the first vote to be grandstanding so that people can change their votes and say "I held out for you" to constituents. They will use the massive Dow drop—of 700 at one point—to make the case that they had to vote for it. Then it will most likely squeak by.

Fuck the Dow Jones, it's recovering anyway. I've watched it go from -570 points to -470 in only 20 mins. It better not "squeak by", not after that kick-arse victory for the people. That was one of the most riveting things I've ever watched.

Crimes of Zion | Mon, 2008-09-29 18:29

it was -520 when I started watching I think.

Crimes of Zion | Mon, 2008-09-29 18:32

For now.

The gangsters behind this theft will keep coming back and voting till they get it right.

How many Rabbis with Rabies are needed to pass this dud?

The TALMUD warned the Chosen Ones about letting us GOY talk and gasp, actually vote.

We're all going to spend eternity burning in a vat of excrement, while the Rabbis feast on shorn foreskin, washed down with fresh blood.

Greg Bacon | Mon, 2008-09-29 18:35

Playing into the hands of the money changers, THEY'LL be back

226 puppets

207 puppets

Control over the long term

Some asshole politician said 30 seconds ago on TV that they were rushed this week and next   week's Jewish holiday......

Ognir | Mon, 2008-09-29 18:37

I saw a threat to drop the DJIA over 12% today. Did you?

Once it blows open the DJIA will cave to 4500 or so... then bubble up to around 7K.

There is Dick all that can be done to halt this save HALT the Military Industrial Complex and Fix up the crimes of State.

The Boo Hoo of the dow gong to camp at 4K for any amount of time in the NORTHCOM area and Banker and his games will be serious abuse targets.

During the vote the DOW shot....down.Over SIX %.

Implying the ability for these forces to do FAR worse if NEED is being pushed like this... Trust me China in one day could depress the DJIA far more than 25% if NEED is present.

Right now USA is in need of serious Anti-Propaganda treatments.

And i think you all sitting front row will be somewhat surprised of the heap of shit that results.

The Main units of your MEDIA COMPLEX just became Target Number ONE.

Times of self repair came and went America.

Now the big dogs fight for your carcass until you all get with the program.

And the Dow MAY recover to 7K.

Funny how GB spat out F the Dow too.. Ahhh the fun of this lesson is going to be so sweet for the learners and so SOUR for the users and the liars.

Have fun all you Liars..

You All know who you are... We do.

First you take D.C. Then you take New York (:

Masher1 | Mon, 2008-09-29 18:41

The Jews will be back or maybe they were just testing how many US traitor politians still on their side

How the FUCK or WHY the FUCK don't we have more details about the 23rd Dec 1913

Ognir | Mon, 2008-09-29 18:45

How strange that this "Theft of American Money" act is trying to get passed during the same period that Jews celebrate their New Year, Rosh Hashanah.

Just a little too much of a coincidence for me.

I imagine all sorts of Cabbalah rituals were held and whatever passes for a Black Mass in Israel and New York.

Looks like someones's Day of Judgement is coming.

Us uppity GOY must be taught a lesson.

Rosh Hashanah -- The Jewish New Year ( Leviticus 23:23-24). Also known as the Day of Judgement, is Tuesday and Wednesday, September 30, and October 1, 2008 (holiday starts at sundown on Monday night September 28).

Yom Kippur -- The Day of Atonement ( Leviticus 23: 26-32). Thursday, October 9, 2008. Kol Nidre is Wednesday night

The Jewish New Year is also known as the Day of Judgement.

http://www.jewishbyte.com/jewishholidays.php

Greg Bacon | Mon, 2008-09-29 18:50

at their unexpected defeat!

now, that the bill has failed and the sky has not fallen, they're trying desperately to peddle the lie that catastrophe is yet to come.

You got to see the look on Pelosi's face! She was speechless! Totally humiliated!

She looked like somebody had just slapped her ass in public!

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qrswave | Mon, 2008-09-29 19:13

Who will be the first to put on the Wailing Wall Street Yarmulka and bash their heads against that facade of capitalism?

The prayer notes inserted into the cracking Wailing Wall Street will ask for more and more money, yesssiree lord.

"Seven, come Eleven, Moma!"

Why should anyone who isn't a Wall Street insider cry for their demise?

At their height of glory, what were they up to?

Corporate raiders taking over firms and ransacking the pension funds, borrowing against the firm and then declaring bankruptcy, sending thousands into unemployment.

Massive tax cuts for firms that offshored their jobs to China with more people laid off.

Outsourcing of other jobs to India and Mexico, with more unemployment.

All the while, the richest fucks on Wall Street paid Congress to cut the taxes on the richest.

All of these Wall Street programs fucked over this country, with less taxes to pay for health care, little money for maintenance and less for schools.

This is what Americans are supposed to rally around and save?

"And in the final days, there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth and plenty of DKNY and ARMANI fashions rendered into nothingness."

FUCK THEM!

Greg Bacon | Mon, 2008-09-29 19:29


"Stretch" Pelosi
Next time she'll be wearing a goatee!

Claymoremind | Mon, 2008-09-29 19:52

Since they couldn't scare Americans with the financial meltdown of Wall Street, the House is now barking and howling about another of their favorite boogiemen, Iran and Muslims.

Rep. FRANKS of Arizona has been on the floor recycling lies about Iran and nukes.

He almost slipped up and mentioned that Israel is the ONLY ME country with nukes, but his Yiddish upbringing came into play and his tin-foil shaped yarmulka started receiving waves loud and clear from Zhid Central.

These damn fools and war mongering idiots need to be sent packing come November.

They must be ampiing up the booga-booga factor to get people's minds off the "Theft of American Money Act."

Greg Bacon | Mon, 2008-09-29 20:00

Speaker Pelosi returns to her district to lead the voters

Claymoremind | Mon, 2008-09-29 20:06
Masher1 | Mon, 2008-09-29 20:10

The Wall Street hustlers, con artists and grifters will be working over the House members to get a few votes changed.

KEEP up the pressure and call your Senator too.

We still have a long way to go.

Damn, this type of representative democracy is kinda fun.

Looks like Nancy will be in for a severe spanking when she gets back to Castro Street.

Bad Girl, Nancy, bad, bad, girl...Whack!

Greg Bacon | Mon, 2008-09-29 20:11

Numerical messages on the close of the day today.

INDU -777.68

First you take D.C. Then you take New York (:

Masher1 | Mon, 2008-09-29 20:20

Pelosi's cat box today

Claymoremind | Mon, 2008-09-29 20:39


Pelosi Spanked!

Claymoremind | Mon, 2008-09-29 21:26

This past Summer, the Plunge Protection team was busy buying up Wall Street stocks to prevent the Dow Jones from dropping, now they have been dumping those stocks back on the Street to artifically create a Dow Jones drop to scare us Americans into voting for the "Theft of American Money Act."

Greg Bacon | Mon, 2008-09-29 22:08

This one was from the aligned force opposite.

The Dow ending on 10365.xx

One Year.

;)

And a Fuck u Very Muchola!

I thought the sub-text hilarious.

First you take D.C. Then you take New York (:

Masher1 | Mon, 2008-09-29 23:10


The People made a monkey out of Speaker Pelosi today!

Claymoremind | Tue, 2008-09-30 00:37

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