then I apologize for my prior endorsement.  There's one surefire way for me to ascertain this, and that would be to follow the trail the TFC "trio" left.

But that would require HOURS and HOURS of listening to those horridly poor quality audio recordings, and hours and hours of reading and following links.... 

Unfortunately, I don't have that luxury to waste time.  I'm still extremely behind in my work and personal research.

That is why I'm relying on the combined effort and knowledge of the world community, in particular WUFYS family.

And also, I've noticed the quality of news, postings, and articles lately have been of low quality (please take no personal offence).  Reading some of Poisedon's writing and thoughts have been very educational.

GR, a couple of what fuckin's for you to puzzle over:

a) what fuckin "prior endorsement"?
b) what fuckin "horribly poor quality audio recordings"?
c) what fuckin else is time better spent if you're so hot for the facts?
d) what fuckin "low quality" news, postings, and articles?
e) what fuckin law says TFC has to spoon feed you with hot shit every other day?
f) what fuckin part of the big picture don't you get after listening to Freedman, Fagan, Bjerknes, Pidcock, Griggs, Day, Dickey, Coughlin, etc, etc?
g) what fuckin did you miss when you read Ford, Fahey, Leese, Ramsay, Diky, Reed, Dilling, Webster, etc, etc?

and finally, my favorite and still virgin offering:

h) what fuckin other site comes close to providing the historical record of Zioscum crimes?

These two posts of yours leave a bad taste in my mouth. Did get a chuckle out of the endorsement of takeyourspamback.guppy. Poseiden spewed here for several months when I asked for some evidence against TFC. Pure flatus. Are you feeling inspired?

One of his finest charges a claim that Smith used "CIA-style mindcontrol techniques" which allowed him to work his guests like a ventriloquist's dummy. An transparent lie, but it played ok since it would require the sheep to invest "HOURS and HOURS listening to those horridly poor quality audio recordings." Don't waste your valuable time; better to simply talk up Old Po's great site.

Po, did turn out to be a real sleuth when it came to cuss words, and he gleefully posted the "Darylgate Tapes" which are chock full of bad language. Why someone would attempt to make an issue of such an irrelevancy is odd, but Poseidon thought it VERY telling and continues to post it prominently at spamback.guppy. Oddly, he has never posted Alex "Germaic Death Cult Bullshit Lie" Jones' foul mouthed attack on Prothink when Prothink mentioned Ben Freedman. Does Poseidon maintain a shitlist on Jones, a known Zio-shill? No, of course not. Wouldn't want to divide the troof movement.

As Nobo correctly points out, Old Po is quite comfortable maintaining his anti-Smith dogshit while trying to bandwagon here with "Smith Rocks" blogs when the WUFYS crowd seem to making the effort to listen to those "dreadful" audio files.

& they're sending the agents out to rehash all this old stuff?

DBS is legit.  He/she could have said it in a calm manner... ;)

Anyways, regarding this:

f) what fuckin part of the big picture don't you get after listening to Freedman, Fagan, Bjerknes, Pidcock, Griggs, Day, Dickey, Coughlin, etc, etc?
g) what fuckin did you miss when you read Ford, Fahey, Leese, Ramsay, Diky, Reed, Dilling, Webster, etc, etc?

I am not familar with many of them.  That is why I asked about WUFYS opinion.  We each have our strengths and weaknesses, some stuff we are extremely knowledgeable about, others we vaguely have a clue.  The TFC is one of those areas I'm not familar with.

Fester, I respect your opinion.  In brief (correct me if I'm mistaken), this is your view:

1) Eric Schmidt is a Zionist Agent

2) Daryl Bradford Smith is legit

3) Chris Bollyn ???????

I've actually meet DBS in real life and he maybe many things, however he's hardly a zio-agent.

Seems EH still has the hots for him and every so often leaks more nonsense.

I saw EH released DBS's military records last week and what was the point Eric? Seems to back up what Daryl has said overt the years.

Time is against us and we get this shite again, as if we have nothing serious to do ....

DBS -- legitimate

Eric Schmidt -- Israeli agent

Chris Bollyn -- ????????

This may be something of yesterday's news, but we never know if some readers know something the rest of us don't.  Also, it helps to filter out the nonsense from the facts if we know more about the background, motives and history of these "truthers".

For example, a long while back I thought MICHAEL MOORE was honest, but it turned out he follows Zionist agenda:  a) "global warming", b) "medical professionals know best, trust everything they say/do", c) "9/11 arabs did it", d) "gun-control", etc.

I have got very used to the fact that Chris Bollyn's stories nowadays contain little or no original research, such as personal consultation of court or govt or state records, and a lot of unsubstantiated rambling.

Hufschmid is the most sophisticated communicator of the three of them, and hence the least to be trusted.

DBS is, I think, sincere, though perhaps excessively stubborn in clinging to certain idées fixes (I suppose we all are, or we wouldn't be here).

It's certainly pointless to drag up these bitchin' tapes, if you aren't familiar with Smith's regular guests, sources, and most widely acclaimed interviews.

Woke up early this morning to check out WUFYS, and the site was "removed", and some other strange messages by bluehost.com. 

Kept checking repeatedly, but the same thing.  Did we get hacked?!  Infiltrated?!

This has happened before, but not like today.  We were offline for at least 15+ hrs, or more.

I though that the site was either hacked or closed down? What happened? My first reaction was 'crap, now where the hell will i be getting my alternative news from?"

Perhaps this is a "taste" of times to come?!  At least this woke up a lot of us.  We need to prepare backup copies of the website database and code, so it can be reduplicated/restored if such a thing happens again.

He seems to be missing.  It's been a long while since he has been active here.   People come and go, that much is granted, and I'm not implying anything (yet), but......

I sort of imagined it had been closed down by enemy action.

Remember the uninterruptable power supplies? A floor full of mysterious batteries, molten lead from which was supposed to explain the bright material pouring from the 81st floor of the South Tower.

This theory led precisely nowhere, and served no function except to reinforce critics of Jones' thermate theory, such as Nico Haupt, Judy Wood, etc.

My Firefox Quicktime plugin is up-to-date, but every page here demands a (supposedly missing) Quicktime plugin.

Good to know the site wasn't hacked, or the host threatened.

As for Bollyn, he has written some good articles; is that the only dud you can find, Berk?

Everyone makes mistakes, but publishing a picture of Daryl on the internet, after being asked specifically not to, is revealing some colour.

TFC has some great info, as always. Listen to the show if you like your headkick earslapped. hehe, Daryl gets hopping mad!

Hufschmidt's proximity to the murdoch clan is like trying to hide a rotting corpse in the closet.

i like Danger Smite's show, and Grouchnir's too. =P

And just for a laugh, listen to Masher pontificate.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KN0PI34F

What do you suppose caused his condition? My best guess is a mixture of alcohol, toluene, and good ol' Canadian tabac.

Serious readers of WUFYS are not sheep who are considering to choose an alternative shepheard!

So discern carefully all the information you receive, whatever the source!

Only the truth will set you free!

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GR, a very sporting response to my unpleasant tone.

However, I've reviewed your post and still fail to see why the fuck you're posting the entire "Darylgate" transcript with photos. If I didn't know better, I'd say you were taking the piss or flinging poo monkey-style.

You claim to want us all to pitch in an help you decide who's "legit" amongst Smith, Hufstain, and Bollyn. You've stated that it's too burdensome for you to LISTEN to the interviews ("horribly shitty audio quality") or READ them books. WTF?

Why are you eating up bandwidth here reposting "Posiedon's" lameass "listen to Daryl curse - don't that just prove he's a fraud" DARYLGATE bullshit?

If everything else is more important, why the need to find out who's legit. You're not going to invest anytime on the INFORMATION.

I gave you a list of names to follow up on. Please do the smart thing and try a couple.

In the meantime, be a sport and pull the shitty transcript and photos. You query doesnt' require it and it gives off a very fishy odor. Peace, Fester

Nevertheless, "exposes" typical of the CoZ, DBS, CB or EH variety play out to paint us as gossipy old farts. Although, it remains important to ascertain who are fraudulent and supposedly on the front lines while in actuality they are storm troopers dilligently working their sabotage and psyops. Still, could there be a more appropriate and less scandalous approach and or venue for such a process?

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"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe." –Albert Einstein.

Nobodaddy vouches for Chris Bollyn as authentic anti-zionist.   If anyone has any objections, please raise them.

So out of the trio of TFC, it is now evident that Eric "THE HALF-JEW" Hufschmid was a mole.  It task was to intercept and disrupt the 9/11 truth movement (they set this up in advance of 2001).

CONCLUSION:

DBS -- authentic

CB -- authentic

Eric Hufschmid -- Zionist gatekeeper

When WUFYS was down for hours yesterday, I looked at the traffic arriving at my site from the recent blogs, and found that the very last hit before WUFYS went down traced to the Oklahoma Office of State Finance (OOSF) at 13:16:38 my time. But minutes before that, at 13:13:29, someone at the same OOSF but with another IP did a Google search for WUFYS + down (arriving at a cache I had made of some page from long ago).

It looked like foreknowledge - a hacker looking for previous episodes? But from what Sullivan has said, it appears foul play was not involved.

I love it when posters call me a Zionist agent, Zionist liar, etc - it shows I'm on the right track. But it's always hard to tell whether they are agents or just wrong. My all time favorite was Pedros:

This is brilliant news for Chris Bollyn supporters but ZIONIST LIAR Poseidon will be pissed that Chris isnt dead and just because the ZIONIST LIAR is cleverer than me and knows more doesnt mean that hes right about everything.

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He admits that I'm "cleverer" and more knowledgeable, but still insists that he's right and I'm wrong!

Here is what WN and all 911 truthers need to know.
The Net Links:

Debus = Daryl Smith-Setters (Neocon criminal who joined the CIA)

LucidThots = Eric Hufschmid (Zionist Jew)

Promerio = British mathematician Sault (White race), who blew Debus' (Smith-Setters) cover.

http://www.nolajbs.net/forum/index.php

Poseidon = Hufschmid and Smith-Setters net character to masquerade as Promerio, as Sault. While Promerio has lowered his profile after the Zionists exposed him personally, the Jews still have work to do to the legendary Promerio's posts on NoLaJbs which along with Piper and Bollyn blew the major 911 truth mislead contingents then, and they still are rebuilding under different screen handles.

Hufschmid = 911 + Moon Hoax

That's how he discredits the 911 movement.

http://www.nolajbs.net/images/distress_flag.gif

Once you know these links, many more things are easy to see on the past and current scene.

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The only thing he's managed to get right is that part of Hufschmid's job is to mix the "moon hoax" conspiracy theory with 9/11 truth - not to mention finding a zionist shill under every bed.

I responded to that here, and then our "Stan Laurel" continued:

After Bollyn and Piper exposed the Hufschmid-Bradford Smith/Setters team, Hufschmid-Bradford Smith/Setters team lost all credibility in the 911 truth movement and both had to go underground.

Bradford Smith/Setter and Whippete/Suzette now run the Wake Up From Your Slumber site, people in the know know that.

Debus had to disassociate himself from the official Daryl Bradford Smith line so as to have any chance to continue manipulating 911 theory. What better way he thought, than to attack his former persona. However the content and line of reasoning of his posts remained having the same overall effect and everybody saw it. Promerio was the first to call it, that Debus was DBS. And it was borne out with Debus fleeing NoLaJbs and starting Wake Up From Your Slumber.

So there you have it. WUFYS is "run by DBS aka Debus".

When Bollyn and Piper exposed the Hufschmid-Smith duo team working together, both Hufschmid and Smith had to pretend to break apart and re-create their message conduits. Today they still work pretending to play opposite sides, the old Good-cop Bad-cop routine, to create drama in the 911 movement and distract from the hard facts.

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Of course, by that time Piper and Bollyn were no longer working together. But conspiracy theorists and Zionist shills will never let facts get in the way of a funny story.

Most people agree about Eric Hufschmid now. Rowan correctly pointed out Bollyn's "UPS batteries in the computer room" disinfo, which was designed to discredit controlled demolition theories by 'explaining' the observed yellow flow from WTC2 as "molten lead" rather than an iron-sulfur slurry near its eutectic at ~ 1,000 C from a thermate reaction. Another goal was to divert attention from Zakheim's SPC remote controlled aircraft with an alternative remote control theory.

But Bollyn's questionable stories and staging of the arrest stunt have been discussed so many times that it's not worth going over again. Sam Danner hoax, Mark Loizeaux misquoted re molten steel, Benjamin Chertoff's mother Judy misquoted re relationship with Michael Chertoff, Arthur Lerner-Lam misquoted re "seismic spikes", "Israeli defense firm tallied Iowa caucus", etc...

that others disagree with it's automatically because they're a Zionist agent rather than it just being a matter of disagreement. I'm referring to the moon hoax conspiracy in this case. I've looked at the evidence & there definately seems to be some questionable behavior from the astronauts in their press conference after the supposed landing & some interesting video evidence. But the point is even if you disagree that it was fake, I'm wrong about it not because I'm geniunely wrong about it as people often are about things but because I'm a crypto-Zionist. Too many people in this movement or whatever seem to love to act in this irrational manner. It's one thing if you're denying blatant things time & time again like Chomsky & other left gatekeepers on 9/11 or Alex Jones on Zionist control, but this is different. I do think Hufschmid is untrustworthy though but for other more obvious reasons such as that he attacks literally every other anti-Zionist figure out there & says nonsensical things like "We can't let the Zionists get control of our banking system" as if they don't already have it on the front page of his website.

We also found DBS to be genuine.  Thanks to the wonderful feedback it appears "Poisedon" is also a zionist agent:  a classic infiltration in which zionist Hufschmid makes acquaintances with DBS and discredits the genuine truth movement. 

Poseidon is not a Zionist agent. I know Poseidon, I've spoken to Poseidon, and I'm in regular contact with Poseidon. His name is Steve and he lives in the U.K.

The fact that Poisedon strongly pushes the "confusion" (i.e. lumping together DBS with a known zionist agent in an attempt to sow doubt in readers of the authenticity of www.iamthewitness.com),  is evidence Poisedon is part of the Hufschmid zionist act.

This is disappointing coming from someone who has claimed to be a "scientist." You appear to know fuck all about the scientific method, TGR. Occam's Razor has gone right out the window. The only "confusion" being sown here is being sown by you. But none of it is taking.

Musings on the TFC issue is best left to those who know what the hell they're talking about. Yesterday I noticed you referred to Eric Hufschmid as "Eric Schmidt."

A year back or so, we had this same heated discussion -- and a recent weblink brought this back to my attention.

That'd be the link I left in this comment a couple of days ago in a blog created by Sullivan. That's how you stumbled across TakeOurWorldBack. Two WUFYS blogs later, you've posted content from that website here at WUFYS as if it's new information, a revelation. You use Poseidon's work as a source one day, and the next it's "updated" with baseless accusations about the author being a "Zionist agent", claiming that you've "solved" some of the big TFC "mysteries". Your evidence is, well, nonexistent. You're just a very intuitive guy, I suppose.

Yes, last year we had this discussion, but you weren't a part of it. I don't recall you ever having contributed. Now I know why: because you know five eighths of fuck all about the subject matter, even a whole year later. 

We don't need a rehash of last year's paranoid "shill" bullshit, TGR. Think before you post.

Huffy talks just like Ron Paul, in a way that i find very condescending, emanating from their einstein-egos.

(Removed the likely false accusation/suggestion Poisedon was involved with EH.  No sufficient evidence.)

..even calves shit.

So do quite a lot of strange people -- mostly charming, but definitely strange.

From Bollyn's work:

The second photo, No. 2181, shows the explosive event that occurred at the 77-80 floor level of the south tower which precipitated the collapse. This event blew large amounts of debris and smoke horizontally from the tower. This explosive event, I believe, is more than a collapse and release of trapped air, this is an explosion that blew the top of the building off of its support columns.

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The "explosives" line was a straw man that could be readily debunked by NIST and engineering professionals ('explosives' that are [i] silent, and [ii] would not be set off by jet fuel fires and the impact of a Boeing 767 at cruising speed), and served to deflect attention from the thermite variant-based demolitions.

You may recall hearing about a streaking missile seen flying past the WTC towers, headed for 7-WTC, precisely as the second plane hit the south tower. Six WTC has a huge unexplained crater at its center and 7-WTC burned and collapsed late in the afternoon on 9-11, for no apparent reason. Steel beams in 7-WTC appear to have “evaporated” or vaporized.

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Good information (partly evaporated steel beams) is deliberately mixed with speculation about a "missile"; he tries to cover himself by admitting it could be a hoax.

While viewers’ attention was focused on the crash and subsequent fireball, few noticed the missile streaking toward 6 and 7 WTC at the edge of the screen.

Source

It's now "the missile" as opposed to a hoax.

An amateur video of the second plane hitting the south tower, shown on Danish TV2’s “22 Fokus” on Sept. 19, shows a laser beam-like spot moving across the west facade of the tower immediately before the plane crashes into it. The spot, which some experts believe is evidence of a laser guidance system being used, moves from left to right before the plane strikes the tower slightly lower and to the right of the dot.

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Another hoax à la the "pod people".

The explosive story of 5 exuberant Israelis seen celebrating while filming the attacks on the World Trade Center was broken nationally in American Free Press shortly after September 11. Although the men claimed to be movers working for the New Jersey-based Urban Moving Systems, it soon became clear that they were actually agents of Mossad, the Israeli military intelligence agency. One of the men later said, "Our purpose was to document the event."

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Bollyn's report is dated July 31, 2002; ABC News exposed it on June 22, 2002.

Also see:

The New York Times reported Thursday [September 13, 2001] that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen congratulating one another afterwards.

Source: Fox News

On holiday in southern Estonia, I have noticed daily "chemtrail" spraying over this non-NATO land.

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"Chemtrails" has been consistently debunked, e.g. here, here, and here. The Zionists would love to equate 9/11 skeptics with chemtrails believers.

The Palisades seismic record shows that – as the collapses began – a huge seismic “spike” marked the moment the greatest energy went into the ground. The strongest jolts were all registered at the beginning of the collapses, well before the falling debris struck the earth. These unexplained “spikes” in the seismic data lend credence to the theory that massive explosions at the base of the towers caused the collapses

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The bogus claim "seismic spikes proof of explosions" is a straw man that was set up so it could be debunked e.g. by Popular Mechanics. It relied on compressing the x-axis and expanding the y-axis, so that the 50-second period of relatively low amplitude disturbances following the collapses appeared to be the 10-second collapse time, and the 10-second period of waves twenty times the amplitude appeared to be a sinister 2-second spike at the start of the collapse.

THE OIL PRIZE

Cheney’s mention of Iraq possessing 10 percent of the world’s oil reserves revealed the true motivation of the money interests behind the Bush policy of “regime change” in Iraq. The implication of Cheney’s speeches is that war should be waged so that the U.S. and Britain could gain control of the oil reserves of Iraq.

The "war for oil" hoax was also peddled by the likes of Mike Ruppert. The war in Iraq was not for oil, but for Israel.

Top investigators of the Columbia space shuttle disaster are analyzing a startling photograph -- snapped by an amateur astronomer from a San Francisco hillside -- that appears to show a purplish electrical bolt striking the craft as it streaked across the California sky.

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It's a good yarn for conspiracy theorists - "the gummint did Columbia"!

Dave von Kleist's video "911: In Plane Site" presents video evidence from four different cameras that recorded the plane striking the South Tower on Sept. 11, 2001.

All four videos, when slowed down and examined frame by frame, clearly show that the plane said to be United Air Lines Flight 175 carried what appears to be a missile pod on its underside between the wings.

Immediately before the plane entered the building the missile pod appears to fire a missile that creates a flash. This flash precedes the impact of the plane's nose with the surface of the South Tower.

The video shows that a similar flash occurred when what is said to be American Airlines Flight 11 struck the North Tower at about 8:46 a.m.

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Missile pods. Say no more!

See here for an analysis I did earlier on Chris Bollyn's Spotlight articles.

Here's my video about 9/11 disinfo which includes Alex Jones admitting Israel may have been "intimately involved" in 9/11.

There are contradictions faced by those who assert that Daryl Bradford Smith and Chris Bollyn are both genuine. This view assumes that they are both highly intelligent fact finders and truth seekers, capable of discerning massive quantities of facts that elude most other truth seekers.

However, DBS and CB each believe the other to be a Zionist agent! The "DBS and CB are both legit" position necessarily includes two contradictions in that these seasoned truth seekers have misidentified each other as agents, even though they can accurately identify the world's biggest criminals.

That's before we even go into Bollyn's marriage to a woman who worked for Israeli military intelligence at Herzliya, him also being wrong about Hufschmid, about the wisdom of calling 911 to get the police to call at his home and then becoming belligerent so that they could arrest him, not to mention the rational explanation of the arrest stunt being the Zionist Mafia's construction of a trap in which anti-Zionist truth seekers would fail to take time out to look into the details of the case, and go on to make a logical error known as post hoc ergo propter hoc (after this therefore because of this) that confuses correlation with causation. 1) Bollyn is an anti-Zionist who has been digging into Zionist involvement in 9/11. 2) Bollyn has got into trouble with the law. 3) Bollyn got into trouble because of his anti-Zionist activism.

Actually, members of Eric Hufschmid's team certainly have posted at WUFYS. Two of the most obvious ones that I can think of (who openly admitted to regular correspondence with him) left here over a year ago, one of them being banned.

Thanks for updating, TGR. I thought Grim was supposed to be Efraim Halevi or someone, although I remember a couple of times when I couldn't sleep and posted here in the middle of the night. And one of those posts was about TFC!

Thanks for your contribution.  You are really good with these details.  As for me, I'm good at the scientific evidence and "big picture" (how everything ties together).

WUFYS has a really good global community.  Hope we can keep in touch for a long while --- it is like we are good friends who have never met in person ;)

I thought on hearing him, for the first and only time, that he was one of the most obvious confabulators in this entire circus. In the first place, there was absolutely no evidence for an armed forces plot to depose Bush, and in the second place, if such a plot had existed, it would not have appreciated this man talking about it to Alex Jones etc.

that you can't have a disagreement with someone without concluding that they're a shill, Nobo. It's more than a shame, it's pathetic, and indicative of either acute dumbness or straight up disinguenousness. I'm hoping it's just stupidity or dishonesty, rather than a Masheresque mental illness.

Do you do it in real life, or just on the internet? Is the person who short-changes you at the supermarket a government agent? Is the neighbor's dog working for the Zionists when he shits on your lawn? Wake up, brother.

First of all, just look at the abstract power constellation, or 'correlation of forces'. On the one hand we have the most powerful military in history, being expanded further in scope, range and unaccountability by a president who believes it is his divine right to 'strike' any point on earth within two hours. On the other, we have a potentially troublesome populace, which might contain well-informed agitators, some of whom might succeed in sowing disaffection within the ranks of the armed forces.

Therefore, what I do is, I send out various ex-officers with counter-intelligence experience to pose as representatives of a fictitious anti-government plot within the military, to engage in fishing expeditions among radio talk show hosts, journalists, antiwar activists whether 'left' or 'right', and so forth.

Besides allowing me to detect possible threats, this also allows me to select and groom patsies for future false flag ops against my own military, which I can then blame on whoever my enemy de jour at that time may happen to be.

I like the free for all bulletin blog system, the other format reminds me of being censored.

What we need is a search feature.

Let the admins fix people's spelling.

Ognir has plenty of forums, as i'm sure you're aware.

The supporting image here is really scary! ;P

Thanks for your initially reasoned response, Nobo - although it developed into something more like a member of Jim Jones' cult who had just been informed that his hero was a fraud. :-)

We know for a fact that Bollyn was married for a mere two years (1983-5) to Bosmat Merimsky - as reported February 6, 2001 in the (Chicago) Daily Herald - a woman who worked for Israeli military intelligence at Herzliya (as admitted by Bollyn himself) - n.b. Odigo two hours' advance warnings originated from Herzliya - and who had wanted to marry an American so she could gain entry to and live in the US (in Santa Monica in fact, within a mile of a Chabad Lubavitch synagogue). Imagine the outcry from the Bollyners if it had turned out that Alex Jones or Mike Piper had been working with Jonathan Pollard 25 years ago!

It is also a matter of public record that Bollyn bizarrely left his position at IBM Global Network Services and was brought to The Spotlight by Ashkenazi Jew Jerry Meyers in 2000, just as Israel's greatest false-flag to date was imminent.

See here for some independent discussion of the veracity of Christopher Bollyn.

We're supposed to believe it was just a coincidence that Bollyn was duped by Merimsky, Hufschmid, Danner, Myers, etc, that he just happened to call 911 at the very moment that the Hoffman Estates police required a pretext to call at his home to attack him as part of an elaborate conspiracy involving the ADL, DHS, Hoffman Estates police force, Jewish prosecutors, a Jewish judge, Mike Piper, Scott Makufka, etc, and that Bollyn is a brilliant truth seeker but lacks the common sense to know that it's not wise to argue with the cops and announce that you're going to get your reinforcements, that his articles are riddled with errors, exaggerations and hoaxes, and that Piper is a Zionist agent and part of a conspiracy to get Bollyn and therefore made up the story about Bollyn receiving money from overseas and being protected at the highest level, etc.

I'm afraid I just don't buy the Zio-construct religion "Bollyn the great Zionist exposer". Zionist deniers frequently try to suggest that it was really some other group that did 9/11, and it only appears that Israel and the Zionists are guilty because they were framed by this shadowy other group (Vatican / Saudis / reptilians / Russians / Masons, etc). Similarly, Bollyners will try to suggest that Bollyn isn't really a Zioshill; he merely looks like one.

So now I'm a "plant", Rowan Berkeley is a "poseur", CoZ is a "deluded idiot", &tc. People should be able to agree to disagree about some issue without concluding that their opponents are disingenuous.

? Have you looked over and  considered Steve's material, CoZ... and believe it is legit? If you have and do, I'm forced to throw your words back at you.

I have looked it over, and there's a lot I don't agree with. Poseidon and I have never been fully in agreement with regard to TFC and Bollyn. For example, I don't agree with Poseidon on Bollyn being a shill. I think Bollyn is one of the best 9/11 investigators to ever hit the scene, but I read what Poseidon finds with interest. He's investigating the investigator, and he does it well.

Bollyn has written some silly shit, but to me it doesn't constitute evidence that he's working for the Zionists. Pobody's nerfect. And I'm not yet convinced that chemtrails are just persistent contrails. I also believe in UFOs and alien intelligence, but I don't push my views on fora like this. Nor does Bollyn push the chemtrail issue. Bollyn has only mentioned chemtrails in passing, as far as I know.

Sometimes I think that Poseidon's scrutiny of Bollyn's mistakes and errors does more damage to anti-Zionism than the errors themselves. Often it seems that no one notices Bollyn's fuck-ups except Poseidon, and that if he just let them slide, they would cause negligible damage to 9/11 revisionism. So I understand the frustration. What I don't understand is people who find a government 'plant' in every last person they disagree with on the internet. It's fucking ridiculous, and so very American (although PlanetQuo was one of the most deluded paranoics I've ever run into online, and he was British/Scottish, and you may be Canadian like Masher1, which goes to show that it's not an exclusively American quirk).

You seem to be able to consider every possibility except that Poseidon and others may actually believe what they're saying. They have to be either disingenuous or Zionist agents, and you almost always favor the latter. You're constantly claiming that others are shills - actual paid covert agents - which is Occam's Razor in reverse. It's asinine.

I mentioned Poseidon: he and his site takeourwurldback.com is utterly bad and worthless: He IS a plant - a bit of truth sprinkled with a whole lot o' lies, and with one specific, patently obvious  purpose.

I don't think you actually believe it though, which is why I call you disingenuous. I refuse to believe that you could possibly be that stupid.

As for CoZ - he's a deluded idiot or also being wholly disingenuous... or mentally ill. Ditto with the caveat about his information.

Fair enough. I was expecting you to come back with something like that. It's on the record that you've accused me of shillery at least 10 times on this forum, only to change your mind when I say something nice to you. I'm happy to let the readers decide who the idiots are.

Rowan Berzerkley  ... is a self-described 'Marxist-socialist'

You sound awfully sure of your quotation, but you are in fact making it up, or your naughty subconscious is making it up for you. I described myself as an 'Islamo-marxist, or marxo-Muslim.'

Islam-o-commie..

Is that similar to a neo-commie/fascist?

Except you put your faith in God, right?

LOL

I didn't call Bollyn 'weird', I pointed out that the organ in which he published the screeds to which you had just posted links, also publishes many 'strange' people : 'mostly charming, but definitely strange.' You replied that you wouldn't recommend it, yourself.

There seems to be little point in talking to you, if you just manufacture slurs.

PlanetQuo.Net is currently being restructured, and will be offline until early/mid November.

Most people persist on making them regularly, and most of them know it.

Almost 1:00 comments.. last call!

=P

I just noticed this:

Invariably there must exist Clandestine and stealthy Zionists

Nevertheless, "exposes" typical of the CoZ, DBS, CB or EH variety play out to paint us as gossipy old farts.

Are you referring to me there? I don't get it.

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Nobo, you misquote Rowan twice, tell us you're leaving in a 'dramatic exit' only to announce an equally 'dramatic' reappearance in the very next comment, which is by the way followed by another eight or so; Mark Glenn is bad and then 'oops, I shouldn't have said that, but wait a minute, no, he is bad'; you change your mind constantly about whether or not I'm a shill, apologising each time you decide I'm not, like you did just now with Rowan; you say goodnight --

Hey, hey, I'm leaving here in' th' morning anyway... and it's time for me to hit the hay. Best wishes to you all... valete.

-- only to change your mind and post again 32 minutes later:

But before I'm off...

... one final reminder. [bla bla blah]

Praise Poseidon's music videos one minute --

Hey Poseidon, how do? Hope you undertake what I know to be the laborious and unpleasant task of updating and editing your webpages to reflect your current thinking (if different)... and / or favor us with another one of your anti-zionist music videos, etc. Vale.

-- only to change your mind the next:

Poseidon is on somebody's payroll (or a wanker, plain and simple).... no more pathetic music vids, I beg you...

All this and more and you say I'm 'confused'.

I can't make head or tail of these feuds. where did all the stuff by 'Poseidon', posted above  by 'Nobodaddy', actually come from, on the web?

if the stuff by 'Poseidon' that 'Nobodaddy' posted above in this thread just comes from another thread in WUFYS, then it isn't worth chasing it down. There is no point in discussing people's reactions to other people's claims, until you have seen where the claims arose from.

It's takeourworldback.com, i believe; but watch out, he'll trace your ip back to israel, then tell everyone.

LOL

Political Ponerology, so-called, Laura Knight's theory. This holds that 2% of humans are hereditary and incurable psychopaths and should be destroyed. No prizes for guessing who gets to identify the 2%.

Funny that number.. 2%

It's as if the guy's deliberately trying to encourage people into hating his tribe, with an wide-swath 'holocaust'-mentality, because anti-'semites' are their best friends, and genocidal ones are friends 'till the end.

(truer than you know)

It occurs to me that you guys mentioned the vapor trails; quite a position poseidon, to just 'debunk' something that i've witnessed personally, to wit: criss-crossed fume-trails over my town, in grid-pattern, that left very fine 'spider webs' afterwards, accompanied by two days of nausea, and an extended period of 'fatigue'.

Debunk this: The slave-masters have been poisoning us for a very long time, in thousands of ways, to keep us down, control us, enslave us, and learn how to kill us outright, when 'necessary'.

It seems to me that many things have been tested on us, in many different ways, including air pollution.

I take my own advice because I usually dislike contradiction however, I feel compelled to respond to you CoZ and break with convention that snide at the great tradition of gossip. What I meant by including you in the list of the exposed was just that--it was simple. Please see the following, and follow the links for a free journey in wonderland.

Jamie Linton - also known as:

 Crimes of Zion
Infensus Mentis
Fester
Quo Vadius
Donnie Darko
True Believer
Brendon Lee O'Connell
 Brendon O'Connell

I have no opinion on the substance of this matter. I have better things to think about. It's not as if we can ever prevent traitors from congregating among us--even sleeping in our beds and eating at our dinner tables. Heck, even governments and the best revolutionary organizations in the world experience bogus people in their midst. This becomes the more arduous for us to prevent because of our wide open forum of discourse. I say suck it up boys, and just out-produce the weasels. There must always be a measure of cryptic power; so stop discriminating against the peons and give us more work product.

Grim, I posted links above, e.g. here, here and here, that demonstrate why "chemtrails" is merely an urban myth that is believed by the scientifically illiterate.

Fluffy rows of cirrus clouds created by the increasing number of jet contrails can sometimes fill half the sky and may significantly affect ground temperatures, according to a report in Thursday's issue of the British science journal Nature.

Source

Agents involved in the 9/11 cover up are known to mix facts with the sort of weak conspiracy material that belongs on Rense, such as "Zionists did the Asian tsunami", "Zionists can control the weather", "Princess Diana was murdered", "Paul McCartney was killed and replaced", "Moon landings were faked", etc.

I don't dispute that all kinds of pollution ranging from nuclear testing to fluoridated water are harmful. But the burden of proof is on those claiming there is a conspiracy to poison, as opposed to the consequences of government and corporations putting power and profit before people.

Ok, I see what you were saying now. I thought you might have me confused with someone who writes 'exposes'.

Just for the record, the nutcase behind the theory that I operate all those handles was proven wrong a long time ago. I operate the first two handles, Fester operates the Fester handle, and the last four or five are, or were, operated by Brendon O'Connell, who was banned from this forum for making a cunt of himself. The Brendon O'Connell = James Linton conspiracy theory has been well and truly debunked, which I would guess is no news to you, seeing that you were interested enough to follow the whole riveting saga.

When that geek showed up at your house with a video cam, goading and threatening you, the very same day that a jewish neo-nazi group in israel made the headlines!

As for the 'debunking' of aerial spraying, there may be many instances of people being paranoid, but i have witnessed a perfect tic-tac-toe grid, at fairly high altitude, outside normal flight paths. Also, they have sprayed down low, for other reasons, and that was yet another mystery-mix for us that left residue on the lawns.

When that geek showed up at your house with a video cam, goading and threatening you, the very same day that a jewish neo-nazi group in israel made the headlines!

As for the 'debunking' of aerial spraying, there may be many instances of people being paranoid, but i have witnessed a perfect tic-tac-toe grid, at fairly high altitude, outside normal flight paths. Also, they have sprayed down low, for other reasons, and that was yet another mystery-mix for us that left residue on the lawns.