UPDATE 2: (some) Mysteries of TFC solved

GR, a couple of what fuckin's for you to puzzle over:

a) what fuckin "prior endorsement"?
b) what fuckin "horribly poor quality audio recordings"?
c) what fuckin else is time better spent if you're so hot for the facts?
d) what fuckin "low quality" news, postings, and articles?
e) what fuckin law says TFC has to spoon feed you with hot shit every other day?
f) what fuckin part of the big picture don't you get after listening to Freedman, Fagan, Bjerknes, Pidcock, Griggs, Day, Dickey, Coughlin, etc, etc?
g) what fuckin did you miss when you read Ford, Fahey, Leese, Ramsay, Diky, Reed, Dilling, Webster, etc, etc?

and finally, my favorite and still virgin offering:

h) what fuckin other site comes close to providing the historical record of Zioscum crimes?

These two posts of yours leave a bad taste in my mouth. Did get a chuckle out of the endorsement of takeyourspamback.guppy. Poseiden spewed here for several months when I asked for some evidence against TFC. Pure flatus. Are you feeling inspired?

One of his finest charges a claim that Smith used "CIA-style mindcontrol techniques" which allowed him to work his guests like a ventriloquist's dummy. An transparent lie, but it played ok since it would require the sheep to invest "HOURS and HOURS listening to those horridly poor quality audio recordings." Don't waste your valuable time; better to simply talk up Old Po's great site.

Po, did turn out to be a real sleuth when it came to cuss words, and he gleefully posted the "Darylgate Tapes" which are chock full of bad language. Why someone would attempt to make an issue of such an irrelevancy is odd, but Poseidon thought it VERY telling and continues to post it prominently at spamback.guppy. Oddly, he has never posted Alex "Germaic Death Cult Bullshit Lie" Jones' foul mouthed attack on Prothink when Prothink mentioned Ben Freedman. Does Poseidon maintain a shitlist on Jones, a known Zio-shill? No, of course not. Wouldn't want to divide the troof movement.

As Nobo correctly points out, Old Po is quite comfortable maintaining his anti-Smith dogshit while trying to bandwagon here with "Smith Rocks" blogs when the WUFYS crowd seem to making the effort to listen to those "dreadful" audio files.

& they're sending the agents out to rehash all this old stuff?

I've actually meet DBS in real life and he maybe many things, however he's hardly a zio-agent.

Seems EH still has the hots for him and every so often leaks more nonsense.

I saw EH released DBS's military records last week and what was the point Eric? Seems to back up what Daryl has said overt the years.

Time is against us and we get this shite again, as if we have nothing serious to do ....

I have got very used to the fact that Chris Bollyn's stories nowadays contain little or no original research, such as personal consultation of court or govt or state records, and a lot of unsubstantiated rambling.

Hufschmid is the most sophisticated communicator of the three of them, and hence the least to be trusted.

DBS is, I think, sincere, though perhaps excessively stubborn in clinging to certain idées fixes (I suppose we all are, or we wouldn't be here).

It's certainly pointless to drag up these bitchin' tapes, if you aren't familiar with Smith's regular guests, sources, and most widely acclaimed interviews.

I though that the site was either hacked or closed down? What happened? My first reaction was 'crap, now where the hell will i be getting my alternative news from?"

I sort of imagined it had been closed down by enemy action.

Remember the uninterruptable power supplies? A floor full of mysterious batteries, molten lead from which was supposed to explain the bright material pouring from the 81st floor of the South Tower.

This theory led precisely nowhere, and served no function except to reinforce critics of Jones' thermate theory, such as Nico Haupt, Judy Wood, etc.

My Firefox Quicktime plugin is up-to-date, but every page here demands a (supposedly missing) Quicktime plugin.

Good to know the site wasn't hacked, or the host threatened.

As for Bollyn, he has written some good articles; is that the only dud you can find, Berk?

Everyone makes mistakes, but publishing a picture of Daryl on the internet, after being asked specifically not to, is revealing some colour.

TFC has some great info, as always. Listen to the show if you like your headkick earslapped. hehe, Daryl gets hopping mad!

Hufschmidt's proximity to the murdoch clan is like trying to hide a rotting corpse in the closet.

i like Danger Smite's show, and Grouchnir's too. =P

And just for a laugh, listen to Masher pontificate.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KN0PI34F

What do you suppose caused his condition? My best guess is a mixture of alcohol, toluene, and good ol' Canadian tabac.

Serious readers of WUFYS are not sheep who are considering to choose an alternative shepheard!

So discern carefully all the information you receive, whatever the source!

Only the truth will set you free!

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GR, a very sporting response to my unpleasant tone.

However, I've reviewed your post and still fail to see why the fuck you're posting the entire "Darylgate" transcript with photos. If I didn't know better, I'd say you were taking the piss or flinging poo monkey-style.

You claim to want us all to pitch in an help you decide who's "legit" amongst Smith, Hufstain, and Bollyn. You've stated that it's too burdensome for you to LISTEN to the interviews ("horribly shitty audio quality") or READ them books. WTF?

Why are you eating up bandwidth here reposting "Posiedon's" lameass "listen to Daryl curse - don't that just prove he's a fraud" DARYLGATE bullshit?

If everything else is more important, why the need to find out who's legit. You're not going to invest anytime on the INFORMATION.

I gave you a list of names to follow up on. Please do the smart thing and try a couple.

In the meantime, be a sport and pull the shitty transcript and photos. You query doesnt' require it and it gives off a very fishy odor. Peace, Fester

Nevertheless, "exposes" typical of the CoZ, DBS, CB or EH variety play out to paint us as gossipy old farts. Although, it remains important to ascertain who are fraudulent and supposedly on the front lines while in actuality they are storm troopers dilligently working their sabotage and psyops. Still, could there be a more appropriate and less scandalous approach and or venue for such a process?

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"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe." –Albert Einstein.

When WUFYS was down for hours yesterday, I looked at the traffic arriving at my site from the recent blogs, and found that the very last hit before WUFYS went down traced to the Oklahoma Office of State Finance (OOSF) at 13:16:38 my time. But minutes before that, at 13:13:29, someone at the same OOSF but with another IP did a Google search for WUFYS + down (arriving at a cache I had made of some page from long ago).

It looked like foreknowledge - a hacker looking for previous episodes? But from what Sullivan has said, it appears foul play was not involved.

I love it when posters call me a Zionist agent, Zionist liar, etc - it shows I'm on the right track. But it's always hard to tell whether they are agents or just wrong. My all time favorite was Pedros:

This is brilliant news for Chris Bollyn supporters but ZIONIST LIAR Poseidon will be pissed that Chris isnt dead and just because the ZIONIST LIAR is cleverer than me and knows more doesnt mean that hes right about everything.

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He admits that I'm "cleverer" and more knowledgeable, but still insists that he's right and I'm wrong!

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To see how amusingly off-base unbridled speculation can lead, see this 'theory' that I am a "fake Promerio" created by Daryl Bradford Smith, and WUFYS is "run by DBS":

Here is what WN and all 911 truthers need to know.
The Net Links:

Debus = Daryl Smith-Setters (Neocon criminal who joined the CIA)

LucidThots = Eric Hufschmid (Zionist Jew)

Promerio = British mathematician Sault (White race), who blew Debus' (Smith-Setters) cover.

http://www.nolajbs.net/forum/index.php

Poseidon = Hufschmid and Smith-Setters net character to masquerade as Promerio, as Sault. While Promerio has lowered his profile after the Zionists exposed him personally, the Jews still have work to do to the legendary Promerio's posts on NoLaJbs which along with Piper and Bollyn blew the major 911 truth mislead contingents then, and they still are rebuilding under different screen handles.

Hufschmid = 911 + Moon Hoax

That's how he discredits the 911 movement.

http://www.nolajbs.net/images/distress_flag.gif

Once you know these links, many more things are easy to see on the past and current scene.

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The only thing he's managed to get right is that part of Hufschmid's job is to mix the "moon hoax" conspiracy theory with 9/11 truth - not to mention finding a zionist shill under every bed.

I responded to that here, and then our "Stan Laurel" continued:

After Bollyn and Piper exposed the Hufschmid-Bradford Smith/Setters team, Hufschmid-Bradford Smith/Setters team lost all credibility in the 911 truth movement and both had to go underground.

Bradford Smith/Setter and Whippete/Suzette now run the Wake Up From Your Slumber site, people in the know know that.

Debus had to disassociate himself from the official Daryl Bradford Smith line so as to have any chance to continue manipulating 911 theory. What better way he thought, than to attack his former persona. However the content and line of reasoning of his posts remained having the same overall effect and everybody saw it. Promerio was the first to call it, that Debus was DBS. And it was borne out with Debus fleeing NoLaJbs and starting Wake Up From Your Slumber.

So there you have it. WUFYS is "run by DBS aka Debus".

When Bollyn and Piper exposed the Hufschmid-Smith duo team working together, both Hufschmid and Smith had to pretend to break apart and re-create their message conduits. Today they still work pretending to play opposite sides, the old Good-cop Bad-cop routine, to create drama in the 911 movement and distract from the hard facts.

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Of course, by that time Piper and Bollyn were no longer working together. But conspiracy theorists and Zionist shills will never let facts get in the way of a funny story.

Most people agree about Eric Hufschmid now. Rowan correctly pointed out Bollyn's "UPS batteries in the computer room" disinfo, which was designed to discredit controlled demolition theories by 'explaining' the observed yellow flow from WTC2 as "molten lead" rather than an iron-sulfur slurry near its eutectic at ~ 1,000 C from a thermate reaction. Another goal was to divert attention from Zakheim's SPC remote controlled aircraft with an alternative remote control theory.

But Bollyn's questionable stories and staging of the arrest stunt have been discussed so many times that it's not worth going over again. Sam Danner hoax, Mark Loizeaux misquoted re molten steel, Benjamin Chertoff's mother Judy misquoted re relationship with Michael Chertoff, Arthur Lerner-Lam misquoted re "seismic spikes", "Israeli defense firm tallied Iowa caucus", etc...

that others disagree with it's automatically because they're a Zionist agent rather than it just being a matter of disagreement. I'm referring to the moon hoax conspiracy in this case. I've looked at the evidence & there definately seems to be some questionable behavior from the astronauts in their press conference after the supposed landing & some interesting video evidence. But the point is even if you disagree that it was fake, I'm wrong about it not because I'm geniunely wrong about it as people often are about things but because I'm a crypto-Zionist. Too many people in this movement or whatever seem to love to act in this irrational manner. It's one thing if you're denying blatant things time & time again like Chomsky & other left gatekeepers on 9/11 or Alex Jones on Zionist control, but this is different. I do think Hufschmid is untrustworthy though but for other more obvious reasons such as that he attacks literally every other anti-Zionist figure out there & says nonsensical things like "We can't let the Zionists get control of our banking system" as if they don't already have it on the front page of his website.

We also found DBS to be genuine.  Thanks to the wonderful feedback it appears "Poisedon" is also a zionist agent:  a classic infiltration in which zionist Hufschmid makes acquaintances with DBS and discredits the genuine truth movement. 

Poseidon is not a Zionist agent. I know Poseidon, I've spoken to Poseidon, and I'm in regular contact with Poseidon. His name is Steve and he lives in the U.K.

The fact that Poisedon strongly pushes the "confusion" (i.e. lumping together DBS with a known zionist agent in an attempt to sow doubt in readers of the authenticity of www.iamthewitness.com),  is evidence Poisedon is part of the Hufschmid zionist act.

This is disappointing coming from someone who has claimed to be a "scientist." You appear to know fuck all about the scientific method, TGR. Occam's Razor has gone right out the window. The only "confusion" being sown here is being sown by you. But none of it is taking.

Musings on the TFC issue is best left to those who know what the hell they're talking about. Yesterday I noticed you referred to Eric Hufschmid as "Eric Schmidt."

A year back or so, we had this same heated discussion -- and a recent weblink brought this back to my attention.

That'd be the link I left in this comment a couple of days ago in a blog created by Sullivan. That's how you stumbled across TakeOurWorldBack. Two WUFYS blogs later, you've posted content from that website here at WUFYS as if it's new information, a revelation. You use Poseidon's work as a source one day, and the next it's "updated" with baseless accusations about the author being a "Zionist agent", claiming that you've "solved" some of the big TFC "mysteries". Your evidence is, well, nonexistent. You're just a very intuitive guy, I suppose.

Yes, last year we had this discussion, but you weren't a part of it. I don't recall you ever having contributed. Now I know why: because you know five eighths of fuck all about the subject matter, even a whole year later. 

We don't need a rehash of last year's paranoid "shill" bullshit, TGR. Think before you post.

Huffy talks just like Ron Paul, in a way that i find very condescending, emanating from their einstein-egos.

..even calves shit.

So do quite a lot of strange people -- mostly charming, but definitely strange.

From Bollyn's work:

The second photo, No. 2181, shows the explosive event that occurred at the 77-80 floor level of the south tower which precipitated the collapse. This event blew large amounts of debris and smoke horizontally from the tower. This explosive event, I believe, is more than a collapse and release of trapped air, this is an explosion that blew the top of the building off of its support columns.

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The "explosives" line was a straw man that could be readily debunked by NIST and engineering professionals ('explosives' that are [i] silent, and [ii] would not be set off by jet fuel fires and the impact of a Boeing 767 at cruising speed), and served to deflect attention from the thermite variant-based demolitions.

You may recall hearing about a streaking missile seen flying past the WTC towers, headed for 7-WTC, precisely as the second plane hit the south tower. Six WTC has a huge unexplained crater at its center and 7-WTC burned and collapsed late in the afternoon on 9-11, for no apparent reason. Steel beams in 7-WTC appear to have “evaporated” or vaporized.

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Good information (partly evaporated steel beams) is deliberately mixed with speculation about a "missile"; he tries to cover himself by admitting it could be a hoax.

While viewers’ attention was focused on the crash and subsequent fireball, few noticed the missile streaking toward 6 and 7 WTC at the edge of the screen.

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It's now "the missile" as opposed to a hoax.

An amateur video of the second plane hitting the south tower, shown on Danish TV2’s “22 Fokus” on Sept. 19, shows a laser beam-like spot moving across the west facade of the tower immediately before the plane crashes into it. The spot, which some experts believe is evidence of a laser guidance system being used, moves from left to right before the plane strikes the tower slightly lower and to the right of the dot.

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Another hoax à la the "pod people".

The explosive story of 5 exuberant Israelis seen celebrating while filming the attacks on the World Trade Center was broken nationally in American Free Press shortly after September 11. Although the men claimed to be movers working for the New Jersey-based Urban Moving Systems, it soon became clear that they were actually agents of Mossad, the Israeli military intelligence agency. One of the men later said, "Our purpose was to document the event."

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Bollyn's report is dated July 31, 2002; ABC News exposed it on June 22, 2002.

Also see:

The New York Times reported Thursday [September 13, 2001] that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen congratulating one another afterwards.

Source: Fox News

On holiday in southern Estonia, I have noticed daily "chemtrail" spraying over this non-NATO land.

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"Chemtrails" has been consistently debunked, e.g. here, here, and here. The Zionists would love to equate 9/11 skeptics with chemtrails believers.

The Palisades seismic record shows that – as the collapses began – a huge seismic “spike” marked the moment the greatest energy went into the ground. The strongest jolts were all registered at the beginning of the collapses, well before the falling debris struck the earth. These unexplained “spikes” in the seismic data lend credence to the theory that massive explosions at the base of the towers caused the collapses

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The bogus claim "seismic spikes proof of explosions" is a straw man that was set up so it could be debunked e.g. by Popular Mechanics. It relied on compressing the x-axis and expanding the y-axis, so that the 50-second period of relatively low amplitude disturbances following the collapses appeared to be the 10-second collapse time, and the 10-second period of waves twenty times the amplitude appeared to be a sinister 2-second spike at the start of the collapse.

THE OIL PRIZE

Cheney’s mention of Iraq possessing 10 percent of the world’s oil reserves revealed the true motivation of the money interests behind the Bush policy of “regime change” in Iraq. The implication of Cheney’s speeches is that war should be waged so that the U.S. and Britain could gain control of the oil reserves of Iraq.

The "war for oil" hoax was also peddled by the likes of Mike Ruppert. The war in Iraq was not for oil, but for Israel.

Top investigators of the Columbia space shuttle disaster are analyzing a startling photograph -- snapped by an amateur astronomer from a San Francisco hillside -- that appears to show a purplish electrical bolt striking the craft as it streaked across the California sky.

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It's a good yarn for conspiracy theorists - "the gummint did Columbia"!

Dave von Kleist's video "911: In Plane Site" presents video evidence from four different cameras that recorded the plane striking the South Tower on Sept. 11, 2001.

All four videos, when slowed down and examined frame by frame, clearly show that the plane said to be United Air Lines Flight 175 carried what appears to be a missile pod on its underside between the wings.

Immediately before the plane entered the building the missile pod appears to fire a missile that creates a flash. This flash precedes the impact of the plane's nose with the surface of the South Tower.

The video shows that a similar flash occurred when what is said to be American Airlines Flight 11 struck the North Tower at about 8:46 a.m.

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Missile pods. Say no more!

See here for an analysis I did earlier on Chris Bollyn's Spotlight articles.

Here's my video about 9/11 disinfo which includes Alex Jones admitting Israel may have been "intimately involved" in 9/11.

There are contradictions faced by those who assert that Daryl Bradford Smith and Chris Bollyn are both genuine. This view assumes that they are both highly intelligent fact finders and truth seekers, capable of discerning massive quantities of facts that elude most other truth seekers.

However, DBS and CB each believe the other to be a Zionist agent! The "DBS and CB are both legit" position necessarily includes two contradictions in that these seasoned truth seekers have misidentified each other as agents, even though they can accurately identify the world's biggest criminals.

That's before we even go into Bollyn's marriage to a woman who worked for Israeli military intelligence at Herzliya, him also being wrong about Hufschmid, about the wisdom of calling 911 to get the police to call at his home and then becoming belligerent so that they could arrest him, not to mention the rational explanation of the arrest stunt being the Zionist Mafia's construction of a trap in which anti-Zionist truth seekers would fail to take time out to look into the details of the case, and go on to make a logical error known as post hoc ergo propter hoc (after this therefore because of this) that confuses correlation with causation. 1) Bollyn is an anti-Zionist who has been digging into Zionist involvement in 9/11. 2) Bollyn has got into trouble with the law. 3) Bollyn got into trouble because of his anti-Zionist activism.

Actually, members of Eric Hufschmid's team certainly have posted at WUFYS. Two of the most obvious ones that I can think of (who openly admitted to regular correspondence with him) left here over a year ago, one of them being banned.

Thanks for updating, TGR. I thought Grim was supposed to be Efraim Halevi or someone, although I remember a couple of times when I couldn't sleep and posted here in the middle of the night. And one of those posts was about TFC!